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The Evacuation of Canadians from Lebanon Thread

17,000.... That's a lot of non taxpaying people with get out of trouble free passports.

But I think that was discussed at length 16 years ago up thread.....

The change is you have to pay from the third country onward this time.

Land ‘em on Cyprus. 👍🏼
 
17,000.... That's a lot of non taxpaying people with get out of trouble free passports.

But I think that was discussed at length 16 years ago up thread.....

The change is you have to pay from the third country onward this time.

Cyprus be like ...

Scared Chewing Gum GIF
 
You can stick 7-8000 on a cruise liner, maybe more if you have them sleep on the decks and you minimize crew. That’s two shuttles from Beirut to Greece/Italy/wherever.
Escorted by whom? I guess the plan is to call the USN again......but they seems to not wanting to take these calls anymore?.......
 
Escorted by whom? I guess the plan is to call the USN again......but they seems to not wanting to take these calls anymore?.......

Do you need an escort? Maybe the passengers can pray for a safe passage. I’m sure they’ll make it, allah willing.
 
A few issues come about from this.
1) Canada's Tax Law's do not make non residents pay tax (down here every American needs to pay tax to the USA, regardless of residency. The only exception is when there are tax treaties, and you are getting taxed elsewhere (like Americans living in Canada, not that I understand why they would...)
2) Canada's Dual Citizenship issues, which have been hashed out here many times before.
3) The costs of Repatriation to Canada - especially when this has been done previously.
4) The belief that Dual Citizens can then import their families who aren't Canadian Citizens

Probably none of those issues by itself would be a significant problem - but when combined they make a rather significant issue for Canada.
 
A few issues come about from this.
1) Canada's Tax Law's do not make non residents pay tax (down here every American needs to pay tax to the USA, regardless of residency. The only exception is when there are tax treaties, and you are getting taxed elsewhere (like Americans living in Canada, not that I understand why they would...)
2) Canada's Dual Citizenship issues, which have been hashed out here many times before.
3) The costs of Repatriation to Canada - especially when this has been done previously.
4) The belief that Dual Citizens can then import their families who aren't Canadian Citizens

Probably none of those issues by itself would be a significant problem - but when combined they make a rather significant issue for Canada.

And the other issue that Canada and CAF really don't even have the ability to do much by ourselves at that scale and even less if the situation becomes more kinetic. It's back to calling Washington. Sure we can rent commercial plans and ships at huge expense but after that it's call big brother.

One day big bro is not going to answer the phone.
 
And the other issue that Canada and CAF really don't even have the ability to do much by ourselves at that scale and even less if the situation becomes more kinetic. It's back to calling Washington. Sure we can rent commercial plans and ships at huge expense but after that it's call big brother.

One day big bro is not going to answer the phone.
I think Sam down South has already lost our number. Better call on a burner.
 
National Post aka Post Media is reporting the Government of Canada is in the planning stage of evacuating 45 000 Canadians from the Middle East due to the war in Gaza, Lebanon and Israel.

They are suggesting Canadian troops are already in the area to start the planning and staging areas.
Lebanon, Israel, Cyprus, and Greece.

I am guessing Navy, Air Force assets plus civilian assets like cruise ships, and chartered jets. Last time the government took this sort of action the Canadians were made up of dual citizenships and most ended up returning back to the Middle East.
15 000 people were evacuated last time and huge uproar over the fact some had never lived in Canada but held a Canadian Passport.

I am wondering the cost, and who are the people that they are offering to evacuating from the war zone. Good thing we just purchased new aircraft, and we have arctic patrol ships that can set sail for the Middle East .

story is on National Post 24 June 2024, has been updated.
 
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I imagine a lot of the planning is identifying what we don’t have that we would need to get it done.
 
From what I learned about the ships we hired and the companies that owned and operated them . Those people had every right to complain .
According to guy I meet some years after the event. He was actually impressed they hadn't had any one die of food poisoning and they actually managed to make port. .
I guess that happens when have you have no choice , no time and very few People in government familiar dealing with those sort of situations.
 
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