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The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

OldSolduer said:
Agreed but there are bureaucrats in the works that need to either do their jobs properly or resign.
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I agree with you before I say this but- do they actually need to? Or are they actually incentivized to do the opposite- there are virtually zero repercussions for not doing their jobs or in some cases there are actually bonuses to pursuing their own political causes.
 
I read in the paper this morning that the Commissioner of the RCMP was "upset" over the decision not to release the types of weapons used in the Portapique massacre. The Staff Sergeant stood his ground and defended that decision - good for him.

"Upset" in my mind meant the Commissioner was yelling, making veiled threats etc - but that is just me reading between the lines.

Add to the JWR debacle, the WE thing etc - how much more BS do we have to put up with?
 
The Liberal's "let's kill handgun sport shooting and legal handgun ownership" Bill C-21 passed second reading yesterday. It now goes for committee study. Many are waiting to see how the definition of "authorized high performance sport shooting athletes" will be articulated, as they are the only citizens who will be allowed to legally own handguns in the future.

The house has risen until September when the Bill will probably very quickly go to third reading and be passed into law. Somewhere between now and then the Liberals are expected to issue their anticipated OIC to "freeze" (ban) lawful handgun purchases, sales and transfers.
 
Brad Sallows said:
How do you become a sport shooting athlete without passing through various stages starting with "buy a handgun and become a sport shooting neophyte"?
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You don't, which causes the shooting sports to die off.

So, I can keep my guns for now. What happens if my gun breaks? Will I be allowed to purchase/import repair or replacement parts? C-21 is silent in that regard. But if the May 2020 OIC is any indication, importation of handgun parts will probably be prohibited as were AR parts.
 
Haggis said:
You don't, which causes the shooting sports to die off.

So, I can keep my guns for now. What happens if my gun breaks? Will I be allowed to purchase/import repair or replacement parts? C-21 is silent in that regard. But if the May 2020 OIC is any indication, importation of handgun parts will probably be prohibited as were AR parts.
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It's obvious the intention is to slowly bleed the gun industry and firearms ownership to death.
 
Brad Sallows said:
How do you become a sport shooting athlete without passing through various stages starting with "buy a handgun and become a sport shooting neophyte"?
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Fudd thoughts:
How do you become an Olympic bobsledder without buying a bobsled and building your own track?
How do you try skiing/snowboarding/paintball/ etc etc etc without buying all the gear up front?

There's enough reasons to be against this without going full informercial to manufacture one.
 
I suppose you start with a toboggan and hill and move on from there, toboggans and hills not being banned. Etc.

The whole point is that there's a spectrum for almost any recreation or pastime ranging from "beginner" to "geek", usually not impeded by overbearing governments saying "Well, if you make it this far, we have an exception for you".
 
Brad Sallows said:
The whole point is that there's a spectrum for almost any recreation or pastime ranging from "beginner" to "geek", usually not impeded by overbearing governments saying "Well, if you make it this far, we have an exception for you".
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Except that, in less than one generation, nobody will "make it this far" ever again.
 
There's going to be tons of handguns and prohibited firearms that go missing when people die.
 
Brad Sallows said:
I suppose you start with a toboggan and hill and move on from there, toboggans and hills not being banned. Etc.

The whole point is that there's a spectrum for almost any recreation or pastime ranging from "beginner" to "geek", usually not impeded by overbearing governments saying "Well, if you make it this far, we have an exception for you".
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Start with a air pistol and go from there, air guns not being banned.
Have ranges rent out guns likes skis, with long term leases for higher end competitors that don't want to share. It's already illegal to shoot outside of licensed ranges.
The spectrum has to change =/= the spectrum can't exist.
 
Remius said:
It’s bad legislation in my view with so many rabbit holes.
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Yup. As I've said, plenty of arguments against. "Can't learn to shoot without owning" isn't one of them, and the raw petulance of it detracts from the credibility of the others.
 
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