The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[OldSolduer]

He who sacrifices freedom to security deserves neither- or words to that effect

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Interesting little exchange

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Just watched it while you were posting. Typical liberal non response. They will not answer the question. They can toss you a $20 bill for each firearm to satisfy the point. If they can do this with firearms, they can do it with whatever they want. Greasy, smarmy, authoritarian end run around the Bill of Rights. Every party voting for this is complicit in it and agrees your rights are worth nothing if they deem it so.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Just watched it while you were posting. Typical liberal non response. They will not answer the question. They can toss you a $20 bill for each firearm to satisfy the point. If they can do this with firearms, they can do it with whatever they want. Greasy, smarmy, authoritarian end run around the Bill of Rights. Every party voting for this is complicit in it and agrees your rights are worth nothing if they deem it so. They can toss you a $20 bill for each firearm to satisfy the point.

What have we become ?

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

What have we become ?

An Urban Champagne-Socialist paradise .

This is why I moved to the middle of nowhere. The Liberals wouldn't be able to find me because dear leader thinks Canadian Geography is Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver & Tofino

I really want to leave Canada and move to the United States long term, preferably somewhere in the Mid-West. There is just a lot more opportunity down there and I'm hoping I can eventually weasel my way in to a position down there.

 

[Weinie]

Again, once they take your guns, they can take whatever they want.

And it's happening in all countries where elitist global forces have placed their politicians, like Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand, etc. All working on the same time line, with the same tools and the same agenda. Go ahead, list them and mark the common denominators.



I'm sticking to the topic from now on. My guns being stolen from me by a despotic government



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Yup.

 

[Mills Bomb]

An Urban Champagne-Socialist paradise .

This is why I moved to the middle of nowhere. The Liberals wouldn't be able to find me because dear leader thinks Canadian Geography is Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver & Tofino

I really want to leave Canada and move to the United States long term, preferably somewhere in the Mid-West. There is just a lot more opportunity down there and I'm hoping I can eventually weasel my way in to a position down there.

I think that's the biggest ironies of Canadians chirping on Americans, Canadians love pointing out problems in the USA, and the USA does have a lot of problems, but at the end of that day you can move around the very different states, find affordable housing, job opportunities, and live the life you actually want. If you want strict gun laws, no problem, go to New York or California, if you love guns, try Vermont or maybe Texas. You just don't get that kind of choice or freedom here because one way of thinking rules the entire country, and there's no escaping whatever it is JT's party are going to confiscate or ban from you next, or however it is they are going to screw you next.

We are talking people literally loosing hundreds of thousands of dollars of investments, maybe millions in some cases.

Some of the guns on the ban list can be worth $10,000-$100,000+ and people were keeping them as investments to do things like send their kids to university and just like that JT is wiping out billions of dollars of Canadian's wealth. They were literally traded amongst legitimate collectors only. This is a huge problem with the handgun "freeze" also. JT literally wiped out massive amounts of savings from pro-gun Canadians and put many of them in really crappy financial situations.

 

[Kat Stevens]

I think that's the biggest ironies of Canadians chirping on Americans, Canadians love pointing out problems in the USA, and the USA does have a lot of problems, but at the end of that day you can move around the very different states, find affordable housing, job opportunities, and live the life you actually want. If you want strict gun laws, no problem, go to New York or California, if you love guns, try Vermont or maybe Texas. You just don't get that kind of choice or freedom here because one way of thinking rules the entire country, and there's no escaping whatever it is JT's party are going to confiscate or ban from you next, or however it is they are going to screw you next.

We are talking people literally loosing hundreds of thousands of dollars of investments, maybe millions in some cases.

Some of the guns on the ban list can be worth $10,000-$100,000+ and people were keeping them as investments to do things like send their kids to university and just like that JT is wiping out billions of dollars of Canadian's wealth. They were literally traded amongst legitimate collectors only. This is a huge problem with the handgun "freeze" also. JT literally wiped out massive amounts of savings from pro-gun Canadians and put many of them in really crappy financial situations.

They're just experiencing things differently.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Joe Biden just flipped his narrative. He moved off the 'assault weapons' to saying he was going to ban all semi-automatics. And if you own a semi-auto you are 'sick.'
Yeah, no commonality there at all

I'm not talking about his problems with owners or the 2nd Amendment.

It is the first time I've heard the gun grabbers down there say they are coming after semi autos.

Biden vows to push ban on semiautomatic guns: ‘It’s just sick’

President Biden vowed Thursday to push a ban on “assault weapons” before the next Congress forms — as he decried the sale of semiautomatic weapons as “sick.”

nypost.com

 

[Stoker]

I noticed that all the previously grandfathered firearms have been added to the new bill and word has it that they will be expected to be turned in as well.

 

[OldSolduer]

Joe Biden just flipped his narrative. He moved off the 'assault weapons' to saying he was going to ban all semi-automatics. And if you own a semi-auto you are 'sick.'
Yeah, no commonality there at all

I'm not talking about his problems with owners or the 2nd Amendment.

It is the first time I've heard the gun grabbers down there say they are coming after semi autos.

Biden vows to push ban on semiautomatic guns: ‘It’s just sick’

President Biden vowed Thursday to push a ban on “assault weapons” before the next Congress forms — as he decried the sale of semiautomatic weapons as “sick.”

nypost.com

And you can bet the NRA will take this to court.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I expect that the court case there, will go as well as ours is going here.

They have the advantage of the 2nd Amendment though.

 

[OldSolduer]

I expect that the court case there, will go as well as ours is going here.

They have the advantage of the 2nd Amendment.

The difference being the NRA has shit tons of political clout.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I noticed that all the previously grandfathered firearms have been added to the new bill and word has it that they will be expected to be turned in as well.

Lots of bolt action hunting rifles on there also. And .22 rimfires.

 

[ModlrMike]

How much do you want to bet that the next thing they try to confiscate won't be gas powered engines?

 

[Weinie]

How much do you want to bet that the next thing they try to confiscate won't be gas powered engines?

Leave my snowblower the fuck out of the equation.

 

[singh1947]

Joe Biden just flipped his narrative. He moved off the 'assault weapons' to saying he was going to ban all semi-automatics. And if you own a semi-auto you are 'sick.'
Yeah, no commonality there at all

I'm not talking about his problems with owners or the 2nd Amendment.

It is the first time I've heard the gun grabbers down there say they are coming after semi autos.

Biden vows to push ban on semiautomatic guns: ‘It’s just sick’

President Biden vowed Thursday to push a ban on “assault weapons” before the next Congress forms — as he decried the sale of semiautomatic weapons as “sick.”

nypost.com

That Virginia rally that drew in the Reservist was about to do the same AFAIK.

 

[ueo]

Paraphrase of Paul Martin Jr

Sorry to be pedantic but... source please.

 

[Quirky]

Yay more rules!

So who’s job will it be to enforce these new rules, will the local PD or RCMP start going door to door?

 

[OldSolduer]

Canadian society is reaping what it has sown. This will not end with the taking of guns.

We put one million people to war in WW2 - and now this.

A nation led by sheep,

 

[KevinB]

Joe Biden just flipped his narrative. He moved off the 'assault weapons' to saying he was going to ban all semi-automatics. And if you own a semi-auto you are 'sick.'
Yeah, no commonality there at all

I'm not talking about his problems with owners or the 2nd Amendment.

It is the first time I've heard the gun grabbers down there say they are coming after semi autos.

Biden vows to push ban on semiautomatic guns: ‘It’s just sick’

President Biden vowed Thursday to push a ban on “assault weapons” before the next Congress forms — as he decried the sale of semiautomatic weapons as “sick.”

nypost.com

He can say anything he wants at this point it is just grandstanding.

The USSC has already upheld the fact common use firearms cannot be banned.

He’s lost the House (and didn’t have enough anti gun dems anyway) and the Senate is notoriously less partisan when it comes to guns especially with southern democrats who want another term).