The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Haggis]

Should we be taking bets on when they come after SKS’s?

My bet would be by December this year. The Liberal gun-banners love their anniversary ban announcements. Of course, they will put in an exemption for FN hunting. Review your family tree and get your status card now.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Should we be taking bets on when they come after SKS’s?

IMO, never.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Good watch.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Found footage of my loss of firearms, yarrr she was a terrible gale...

989K views · 11K reactions | Don’t know what to say. That’s just how it happened. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣 | Gun Owners of Canada

Don’t know what to say. That’s just how it happened. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

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[Haggis]

Found footage of my loss of firearms, yarrr she was a terrible gale...

989K views · 11K reactions | Don’t know what to say. That’s just how it happened. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣 | Gun Owners of Canada

Don’t know what to say. That’s just how it happened. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

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And, as a law abiding firearms owner, everything lost was reported to your local police as per CCC 105(1)(a), right?

 

[Jarnhamar]

And, as a law abiding firearms owner, everything lost was reported to your local police as per CCC 105(1)(a), right?

"with reasonable despatch"

GOC thinks making gun owners wait 6 years is reasonable, seems fair to use that as a guideline

 

[Halifax Tar]

And, as a law abiding firearms owner, everything lost was reported to your local police as per CCC 105(1)(a), right?

It's a joke man, I bet youre a lot of fun at parties.

 

[Haggis]

It's a joke man, I bet youre a lot of fun at parties.

Did you just assume my gender?

And, yes, I am fun.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Did you just assume my gender?

And, yes, I am fun.

I did.

And no doubt.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I am seeing on some of the gun orgs sites they are claiming the amnesty has been extended a year but I haven’t seen a official government statement on the topic yet.

 

[calculus]

I am seeing on some of the gun orgs sites they are claiming the amnesty has been extended a year but I haven’t seen a official government statement on the topic yet.

Yup. Now 30 Oct. 2026.

Assault-Style Firearms Compensation Program - Canada.ca

Violent crime involving firearms is a threat to public safety. See the actions the Government of Canada is taking and how you can help end gun violence.

www.canada.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

But Carney promised. And he's such a honest and stand up guy.

 

[OldSolduer]

But Carney promised. And he's such a honest and stand up guy.

Kicking the can down the road - like this government does. Like most governments do

 

[Lumber]

Here's what I think the liberals should do instead that I think would be more effective at achieving actual "effect" (reducing gun violence), appeasing the anti-gun lobby, and assuaging gun owners.

Instead of mandatory buy back that can't be properly funded, make it a voluntary buy back at full value of the fire arms.

Here's why.

We know, and Carney isn't stupid so I'm pretty sure he knows, that most lawful fun owners aren't the problem. But, there is a risk that the guns owned by lawful gun owners get stolen and become used in crime. However, "serious" lawful gun owners (the ones who don't want to give up their guns) are also some of the most ardent at safeguarding their guns. Their guns are less at risk of being stolen and used in crime. The real risk are those who take their ownership less seriously (maybe they've "grown out of guns", maybe they've moved to an area where using there guns is no longer convenient, etc). Make an ad campaign targeting these individuals, and offer them full compensation for their guns.

You still get to appease the anti-gun crowd, and you remove (some) of the guns that might actually end up in crime, and you avoid pissing off gun owners with mandatory and sub-market value buybacks.

 

[Remius]

And maybe provide an exemption for all CAF, former and serving and any LEO former and serving.

Want to own a restricted firearm? Do do some time in those realms.

Would help with recruiting. Most of them have had previous background checks and firearms training.

Also creates a pool of people that could be called up as a reserve if shit really goes down.

 

[Fabius]

How about no buyback period and we just allow all Canadian citizens to own their property that they became licensed to own.

There was nothing wrong with the general system in 2015. The named prohibition of certain firearms, magazine restrictions, and range only restrictions were really the only dumb ideas that made the entire system contradictory.

Let’s just go back to that system with some logic applied to the three contradictory ideas to make the system overall more rational for legal licensed owners.

Spend our time, energy and resources on actual criminal firearms use.

 

[OldSolduer]

Spend our time, energy and resources on actual criminal firearms use.

Blasphemer!!! Heretic!!!

Burn burn!!!!

 

[Maxman1]

Here's what I think the liberals should do instead that I think would be more effective at achieving actual "effect" (reducing gun violence), appeasing the anti-gun lobby, and assuaging gun owners.

Instead of mandatory buy back that can't be properly funded, make it a voluntary buy back at full value of the fire arms.

Here's why.

We know, and Carney isn't stupid so I'm pretty sure he knows, that most lawful fun owners aren't the problem. But, there is a risk that the guns owned by lawful gun owners get stolen and become used in crime. However, "serious" lawful gun owners (the ones who don't want to give up their guns) are also some of the most ardent at safeguarding their guns. Their guns are less at risk of being stolen and used in crime. The real risk are those who take their ownership less seriously (maybe they've "grown out of guns", maybe they've moved to an area where using there guns is no longer convenient, etc). Make an ad campaign targeting these individuals, and offer them full compensation for their guns.

You still get to appease the anti-gun crowd, and you remove (some) of the guns that might actually end up in crime, and you avoid pissing off gun owners with mandatory and sub-market value buybacks.

Or, how about don't, and use the money you would have wasted on that stupidity and spend it on actually effective measures like improved CBSA funding to combat smuggling, and bring back mandatory minimums for actual criminal misuse of firearms (which was removed by Trudeau for literally no reason)

 

[Jarnhamar]

Here's what I think the liberals should do instead that I think would be more effective at achieving actual "effect" (reducing gun violence), appeasing the anti-gun lobby, and assuaging gun owners.

I like your idea. Give gun owners an opportunity to recoup (most of) their money. Some of us don't shoot as much anymore and some people have unused guns they would happily turn in for cash. I have a few I would turn in to the government vice sell if I was getting an appropriate value for.

Writ large "appeasing" the anti-gun lobby immediately moves this from being about public safety to politics and vote-buying. The public safety minister himself admitted the whole thing was bullshit.

Carney's "just shut Quebec up" is weak through and through. It's cowardly. If The LPC cared about public safety they would concentrate their effort where it's needed. E.g:

Police seize 35 firearms, $2M in drugs in raids in Cornwall, Ottawa, Akwesasne​

 

[Lumber]

Or, how about don't, and use the money you would have wasted on that stupidity and spend it on actually effective measures like improved CBSA funding to combat smuggling, and bring back mandatory minimums for actual criminal misuse of firearms (which was removed by Trudeau for literally no reason)

Because they have to do something that will appease the anti-gun lobby.