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The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

Jarnhamar said:
My playing obtuse aside, I don't see how this can really cause any damage. It's not like the government will see this and decide to ban firearms or destroy sport shooting.

By this stage Canadians have made up their minds about firearms.
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Not as many as you'd think. Most Canadians don't give much thought to gun control (or defence or law and order in general, for that matter) until either their government or MSM tells them they should.

But acts like this can sway the undecided towards the anti side.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
Governments break the law all the time, in fact most people break the law on a regular basis. There are so many laws, regulations, polices that no one could hope to know them all and can break them unwittingly or because the law is seen to be stupid.
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But still….
The law won…

 
Halifax Tar said:
Seem reasonable. Bully are tough until they start getting hit back.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2084616543548162225
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Just read that and found it interesting myself. It's almost as if police have known this since around Columbine, but in Canada we keep getting told legal firearms owners, like the gentleman in the story, are the true problem.

I'm not saying I'd daily CCW, but given the option, I'd take the training and make sure I could when I wanted to.
 
Halifax Tar said:
Seem reasonable. Bully are tough until they start getting hit back.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2084616543548162225
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Gun control activists:
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Furniture said:
Just read that and found it interesting myself. It's almost as if police have known this since around Columbine, but in Canada we keep getting told legal firearms owners, like the gentleman in the story, are the true problem.

I'm not saying I'd daily CCW, but given the option, I'd take the training and make sure I could when I wanted to.
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I used to be pretty solidly against CCW.

But as I watch the continued impotence of our law enforcement organizations and government, my pendulum has swung to where I no longer trust them to respond properly or on time when it comes to my personal safety or my family's safety. I think it's high time that Canadians were given the legislative and legal cover to be able to carry concealed weapons.
 
Halifax Tar said:
I used to be pretty solidly against CCW.

But as I watch the continued impotence of our law enforcement organizations and government, my pendulum has swung to where I no longer trust them to respond properly or on time when it comes to my personal safety or my family's safety. I think it's high time that Canadians were given the legislative and legal cover to be able to carry concealed weapons.
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Considering the amount of drug addled criminals walking around in public these days it isn’t a bad idea.

The amount of random stabbings in completely public areas by random people to random people has caused me to always consider where I am going and how prepared I am, especially if I am with my family.

It isn’t just criminal on criminal violence, or stabbings for a reason, it is random where the victim did nothing to provoke or cause the attack.

Remember in Canada you need to wear seatbelts in case of a car accident, have smoke alarms in case of a fire, but god forbid you planned on how to protect yourself or your family from a aggressor.
 
Halifax Tar said:
I used to be pretty solidly against CCW.

But as I watch the continued impotence of our law enforcement organizations and government, my pendulum has swung to where I no longer trust them to respond properly or on time when it comes to my personal safety or my family's safety. I think it's high time that Canadians were given the legislative and legal cover to be able to carry concealed weapons.
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I would add a bit to that.

...Canadians <who have completed and passed a national standard firearms handling, marksmanship and legalities related training course>...were given the...
 
Halifax Tar said:
I used to be pretty solidly against CCW.

But as I watch the continued impotence of our law enforcement organizations and government, my pendulum has swung to where I no longer trust them to respond properly or on time when it comes to my personal safety or my family's safety. I think it's high time that Canadians were given the legislative and legal cover to be able to carry concealed weapons.
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We do have that in the system, Authorization To Carry. It's almost never issued.

rcmp.ca

Authorization to carry

rcmp.ca rcmp.ca
 
Maxman1 said:
We do have that in the system, Authorization To Carry. It's almost never issued.

rcmp.ca

Authorization to carry

rcmp.ca rcmp.ca
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I have seen/heard estimates of 651 to 1 in circulation right now for protection of life by an individual (Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations) Section 2, but there are hundreds issued under Section 3 for lawful occupation and wilderness carry. My club in co-operation with the local trappers hold an ATC for wilderness carry course each year.

The GoC refuses to say how many Section 2 ATCs are out there citing privacy and safety concerns.
 
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