recceguy said:
We know that, and it's been stated and agreed here before. Nor do we have rights preventing government confiscation of private property, which has to be changed. What I do have a right to is self defence, up to and including deadly force, but why am I not allowed to have the tools to perform said defence?
............and the wheel comes full circle. Here we go again.
Here we go again indeed.
I agree with your post entirely recceguy. Guns are so easy to target. They're stereotyped to death. It's easy for those who are uneducated about firearms to come on here, or anywhere for that matter... spew crap all over the place, skew the facts, and try to make it seem legit. As I've said before, I'm sure automobiles kill a hell of a lot more people in Canada annually than firearms. Where are your automobile control groups? Your muscle car bans?
Alcohol is targeted by a few anti groups but it isn't broadcasted nearly as much as the anti gunners. We don't NEED alcohol. We don't need legalized potent beverages such as 151 or even rums/whiskeys at around 40%+. People want these drinks. When taken in moderation, it certainly helps people to enjoy themselves more, etc. Do you think we should ban alcohol? How about control it more, imposing restrictions? We could create an alcohol registry, force everyone who
wants to buy a drink to carry a card and allow them to have no more than one 350ml beverage of a max 5.5% alcohol once a day. If they want to buy alcohol and bring it home, they need proper transport permits to "prevent" drunk driving. If someone may be having more than one drink or have something above 5% in their homes, let the police raid their home and seize it. Hopefully you anti's see where I'm going with this.
Cell phones are great. Talk to loved ones wherever you get service, etc. However there are driving bans in place because cellphones can impair your driving, taking your attention off the road and unto your wonderful little electronic device. Why don't we just ban those, or place even more restrictions on them? They're dangerous too, and I bet there have been deaths due to neglect of cell use while driving... but Arnold, Chuck, or Tom Berenger don't kills dozens of badguys while driving loaded and on the phone in their movies, so it can't be that bad... mostly people are killed with guns. Guns are bad! Ban guns! Life's problem of death solved. :
I sure as hell enjoy nice fast cars, my booze, my cell, and firearms---if used with common sense, judgement, in moderation, and properly (courses for all minus the alcohol and cell). These are all just examples of the many "dangers" in life.
To me, it seems the LIEberals try to make their scandals and years of wasting money on useless programs go away -- trying to cover up their horrible track record.They have tried (and in some areas succeeded) to lure the votes of the scared and the uneducated with "ideas" such as the gun registry, handgun bans, or the newest, ban of semi autos. (Which they want stored in a shed on your range wherethey allegedly they'll be more safe :
). All of these "ideas" have only wasted billions on nonsense, stripped gun owners of their rights and freedoms, and monitor their every movement with imposed restrictions. They've implemented the ability to raid a home off an anonymous tip, which could be anyone from a disgruntled neighbour to some kid playing a prank. Add seizure and destruction of property to the mix and I've no reason to question how barbaric this sounds, and why people refer these ideas to that of infamous leaders from long past. If all of this isn't a violation of our rights and freedoms, then I don't know what is.
It has proven that gun laws do not curb gun crime. All you have to do is look at the "big bad USA" and look at their cities with imposed gun bans, DC and NYC for example... with some of the highest homicide by firearms rates in the country. For some, it's so easy to blame inanimate objects and punish those who wish to obtain, operate and store them properly, with no threat to their fellow citizen---rather than create deterrants (harsh sentences, increased policing, giving civillians the right to defend themselves), to help curb the troubled souls who are the root of all this fuss in the first place...and help prevent others from walking down that path.
I don't care who tries to prove that what's in place is working and what's proposed by the red excuse of a political party will work. I know it isn't working, period. There is not ONE person who can come on here and explain to me how the registry of handguns or longguns, submachine guns or assault rifles, prohibiting .25 and .32acp cartridges, firearms with selective fire, full autos, etc... has cut down on crimes created by
determined criminals. There are no reasons why I should have to register my firearms, no more than having to register that dangerous bottle of alcohol, or a dangerous knife. There is no reason why I should be allowed to have a semi automatic firearm and not a fullly automatic firearm. No reason why I shouldn't be allowed to collect that Thompson SMG, or that Bren or Sten, an AK, C7 or whatever the case may be. Sure, I don't need these. I don't need a lot of things. I don't need machetes or booze or 5lbs of lasagna for supper... I want those things. If I own those things and I am not harming my fellow citizen by having them, then why can't I have them?
And don't argue the "they'll get stolen" bit. It's old. Full autos are prohibited, yet criminals still have them (and the scattered licensed grandfathered owner). Full autos float around the street more frequently than you'd like to think. With unguarded roads into and out of the USA and our huge shore line which I'm sure isn't 100% covered (not to mention smuggling through border security), they'll exist in this country no matter what.
LAWS AFFECT THOSE WHO ABIDE BY THEM.
CRIMINALS DO NOT ABIDE BY THE LAW, HENCE THE REASON THEY'RE CRIMINALS. THEY ARE
NOT AFFECTED BY RESTRICTIONS OF THE LAW, BUT ONLY BY THE
SENTENCE(S) DEALT (IF they're caught and sentenced)
Caps to try to get the very simple point across.
/end mega rant.