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Mentioning MLK Jr and Trump in the same breath. ![Frown :( :(](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png)
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Have to be careful about such dreams, though - one man's "Make x Great Again" is another man's "X's back!" Sound nice, but not much substance in the slogan alone.George Wallace said:I can see the Conservative Parties of Canada and Ontario, both having the same problem: people are tired of the "politician without a dream" and the end result is that only a "loser" will face off against the Liberals. The candidate who comes forward with a "dream" may well take the leadership by storm.
Baden Guy said:Mentioning MLK Jr and Trump in the same breath.![]()
George Wallace said:Reflecting on the US election, and the failures in our recent elections, I can see O'Leary actually doing well. People seem to dismiss the current crop of "leadership" candidates who have "no vision" or "dream", who just seem to follow the tired old Party Lines and seem to be only in it for profit. Trump came out with a "dream"; a dream "to make America Great again." Perhaps he was playing on Martin Luther King Jr's "I have a dream" or actually had a desire to make America Great again. I can see the Conservative Parties of Canada and Ontario, both having the same problem: people are tired of the "politician without a dream" and the end result is that only a "loser" will face off against the Liberals. The candidate who comes forward with a "dream" may well take the leadership by storm.
Is O'Leary even a Conservative? I could just as easily see him running under a liberal banner if they happened to have a job opening for a leader right now.Remius said:It's not a question of dreaming as much as it is them being uninspiring. And that is personal opinion I admit.
But there are fundamental differences between our system and theirs and even the conservative vs liberal mindset here. Remember that Stephen harper's conservatives had more in common with the Democrats than anything else and that our Liberals are far more to the left than the democrats are.
The concern is that the CPC is an alliance of conservatives. Fiscal, progressives and traditional social conservatives. Ms. Leitch will likely split her party perhaps irreversibly along those lines. O'Leary is more of a red tory and conservatives don't think he espouses traditional conservative views or values. Other than the economy he has very little in common with them. That will also lead to a split, I fear. I can't see, so far, any leader that can keep the party united like Brian Mulroney or Stephen harper was able to do.
I have no doubt that either can win the leadership. It will be interesting to see what sort of party comes after though.
Remius said:O'Leary is more of a red tory and conservatives don't think he espouses traditional conservative views or values. Other than the economy he has very little in common with them.
Altair said:Is O'Leary even a Conservative? I could just as easily see him running under a liberal banner if they happened to have a job opening for a leader right now.
Altair said:Is O'Leary even a Conservative? I could just as easily see him running under a liberal banner if they happened to have a job opening for a leader right now.
How can one be conservative and support gay marriage?recceguy said:How can you be a libertarian, moderate or not, and still believe in gun control?
This is a rare occurance.Jarnhamar said:I think you're 100% right.
recceguy said:How can you be a libertarian, moderate or not, and still believe in gun control?
ballz said:You're asking about O'Leary, right? What was his stance on gun control?
I don't know O'Leary's stance on gun control
"there is no need anybody to have that"
" you would never hunt with it, you would only use it to kill people.."
"that is a weapon that is just used to kill everybody in the room! Who should have that? Nobody! "
"unless you are an accredited law enforcement officer, what the hell are you doing with that rifle?"
Jarnhamar said:Here are quotes from Kevin O'Leary on AR15 rifles in Canada.
Jarnhamar said:Here are quotes from Kevin O'Leary on AR15 rifles in Canada.
Technoviking said:I fail to understand why people are afraid of social conservatives. The stuff that the social Liberals are ramming down our Collective throats is appalling.
FTFYballz said:... Another expat city-kid that is automatically scared by their own ignorance ...
Just think about the opportunities for disinformation [George Wallace said:Well....we won't need Russian hackers with Bernier at the helm. He'll just leave those Secret documents laying around his condo for anyone to view. >![]()