The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Nvlgzr]

FIFY

You know what is really well integrated into NATO? The Eurofighter Typhoon.A lot more NATO countries fly the Typhoon than the Gripen.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Announced today for the German Eurofighter.

Saab receives orders for Arexis system for German Eurofighter - EDR Magazine

Saab has received two orders from Airbus Defence and Space for the Arexis Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite to equip

www.edrmagazine.eu

 

[Nvlgzr]

Here we go:

Saab signs 3.1 billion euro Gripen fighter deal with Colombia​

Saab signs 3.1 billion euro Gripen fighter deal with Colombia

(Reuters) -Swedish defense firm Saab said on Friday it has signed a contract worth 3.1 billion euros ($3.62 billion) with the Colombian government to deliver 17 Gripen fighter jets between 2026 and

ca.finance.yahoo.com

Was this deal not previously killed by the US by restricting access to the F414 engine?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Was this deal not previously killed by the US by restricting access to the F414 engine?

I thought so as well - but numerous news agencies have released the article over the last 2 hours.

 

[ytz]

FIFY

Would have better if we ordered that one.

I thought so as well - but numerous news agencies have released the article over the last 2 hours.

It's on Saab's website.

Saab signs contract for Gripen E/F with Colombia

Saab has today signed a contract with the Colombian Government and received an order for 17 Gripen E/F fighter aircraft. The order value is EUR 3.1 billion and deliveries will take place 2026-2032.

www.saab.com

 

[GR66]

This from Google's AI Overview (haven't found a definitive article yet confirming the license agreement being finalized):

Colombia's recent agreement to acquire Saab Gripen E fighters is complicated by the fact that the aircraft's engine, the General Electric F414-GE-39E,, is a U.S.-made component subject to export controls. Despite earlier reports and claims of a potential U.S. "veto," Saab maintains that all necessary licenses are in place, and a deal was finalized in November 2025. The situation highlights the U.S. strategy of using export controls to promote its own defense products, such as the F-16, while simultaneously trying to limit Russian and Chinese influence in the region.

The Gripen E/F and U.S. components

• Engine: The Gripen E/F uses the American-made General Electric F414-GE-39E engine,, which is subject to U.S. export control laws, including the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR).
• Impact on sales: This reliance on U.S. components has led to reports and concerns that the U.S. could block Gripen sales to countries like Colombia, potentially pushing them to choose U.S. aircraft instead.
• Recent developments: Despite these concerns, Colombia and Saab finalized a contract for 16 Gripen E fighters in November 2025,.

The United States' position

• Diplomatic pressure: The U.S. has reportedly exerted diplomatic and economic pressure on Colombia, promoting the F-16 fighter jet for its NATO interoperability.
• • Strategic goals: This effort aligns with a broader U.S. strategy to dominate the arms market in Latin America and limit the influence of non-U.S. defense manufacturers.
  • Export control as leverage: Blocking the sale of U.S.-made components has been used as a tactic to encourage countries to choose U.S. defense products.

Closest I could find is this article:

According to reports from these outlets, it was strongly suggested that the U.S. government, seeking to promote its offer of F-16 fighters to Colombia, would veto licenses for the use of the General Electric F414G engines that power the Saab Gripen E, as well as potentially other systems used by the combat aircraft.

Hours after the news circulated, Richard Smith, Deputy Head of Marketing and Sales for Gripen at Saab AB, addressed the matter on the social media platform X, refuting the claims made by the aforementioned media. Regarding this, the Swedish firm’s representative stated: “I don’t usually comment on these types of publications; however, this article and the information in it are neither accurate nor truthful. It is misleading the reader. All relevant licenses and permits are in order. The Gripen E, along with its logistics and industrial package, is the perfect option for Colombia.”

 

[Czech_pivo]

This from Google's AI Overview (haven't found a definitive article yet confirming the license agreement being finalized):

Closest I could find is this article:

Interesting little game of disinformation being played out.

 

[GR66]

It would be a pretty blatant FU to Canada if the US were to block us from getting the F414 engines for the Gripen considering that they are an evolution of the F404 engines currently in use in our CF-18's. It would make it very clear that the US is only interested in having client states rather than allies. Should that happen I think you'd find that pretty quickly all of the US's "allies" will rapidly move away from any American defence products.

 

[ytz]

The Trump Administration is pretty much adopting that position. He routinely talks about how allies are worse than adversaries. He just said an interview that the French spy on the US more than the Chinese. And let's be honest, when he's gone there will be another. Long term the Americans are clearly in decline. We need to be more self reliant and build some separation to avoid getting sucked into that.

But this knee jerk Saab order is not the way. Especially to cut down the F-35 order that drastically.

 

[ytz]

It would be a pretty blatant FU to Canada if the US were to block us from getting the F414 engines for the Gripen considering that they are an evolution of the F404 engines currently in use in our CF-18's. It would make it very clear that the US is only interested in having client states rather than allies. Should that happen I think you'd find that pretty quickly all of the US's "allies" will rapidly move away from any American defence products.

Also, all but guarantees that they'll just re-engine with a Rolls Royce engine.