The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Kirkhill]

Seahawks? Not Aw101? After all, the helicopter deck, hanger and Mission Bay (2 choppers in tandem) were originally laid out for the Merlin.

On the plus side with the smaller SH70 there is more room for UAVs and given the pass through between the hangar and the mission bay on the Type 26 Rivers you might even be able to transport three SH70s.

The Type 26 frigate mission bay. Part 2 – configuration and contents - Navy Lookout

In the previous article we considered the design and development of the Type 26 frigate mission bay. Here we take a more speculative look at how this flexible space could be used. Given the timeframe, there has understandably been minimal official comment about what may be carried within the...

www.navylookout.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Meanwhile...

We are also involved in this game.

Airbus Joins Boeing, Embraer, Bombardier, Mitsubishi and COMAC in Thrilling Race for Future of Aircraft Manufacturing, New Update is Here - Travel And Tour World

Airbus joins Boeing, Embraer, Bombardier, Mitsubishi and COMAC in the thrilling race for the future of aircraft manufacturing, new update is here. The battle for dominance in aircraft manufacturing has never been more intense.

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I would note that Airbus is a multi-national consortium that is currently disrupting Europe's intentions to establish a pan-European solution because of internal national competition between France and Germany.

 

[Kirkhill]

And since we are referencing General Electric vs Rolls Royce

This article compares the civilian offerings and their design principles. They seem to mirror the distinctions between the American V8 of the Ford Mustang and the British V12 of the Jaguar E-Type.

The Striking Differences Between GE & Rolls-Royce Engines

Both are synonymous with reliability and quality, which are vital to producing an industry-leading engine.

simpleflying.com

 

[markppcli]

Station them in Sweden close to Saab for cover for our latvia brigade.

I see more like a cold war level increase, 10 squadrons, 4 in canada, 6 in europe.

Yeah that 5 minutes of onsta will be super helpful

 

[Maxman1]

The E-7 was rejected by NATO, and is being rejected by RoK, who already operates some, which should maybe a be a warning to us that the E-7 maybe isn`t "all that"... AAR is pretty important, but if the aircraft costs so much we can't afford to run them, AAR is a just a cool party trick to be pulled out at RIMPAC and other similar events.

It's also operated by Britain, Australia and Turkey. Also, the exact reason for NATO picking the GlobalEye isn't public, but it probably has to do with their expected patrol areas and mission times being shorter than what we can expect, which favours the shorter range GlobalEye. They're probably going to be flying them almost exclusively over continental Europe, with many NATO airfields nearby.

 

[GR66]

Station them in Sweden close to Saab for cover for our latvia brigade.

I see more like a cold war level increase, 10 squadrons, 4 in canada, 6 in europe.

Why would you want to put the non-stealth, 4th Gen fighter in Europe where AD density is the highest and the stealthy 5th Gen fighter in NORAD where the primary purpose is deterrence which implies being seen by a potential adversary?

 

[Nvlgzr]

AAR is pretty important, but if the aircraft costs so much we can't afford to run them, AAR is a just a cool party trick to be pulled out at RIMPAC and other similar events.

AAR keeps coming up by some as if it is critical. I don’t know if the detractors are aware but the Globaleye has double the range (11000km) of the Wedgetail (6500km) which is replacing the E3 (7400km). Now we are looking to acquire AEW (C?) that we never had before, although we helped to fund NATO E3’s. We are soon to field the MQ9B UAV. Apparently SAAB has partnered with General Atomics to offer Erieye on the MQ9B. If we upgraded our UAV to Erieye and purchased Globaleye there would be some shared technology.
The drawback to the L3Harris is offering is the technology is from Israel . I believe the government optics at this time is to minimize their exposure to Israel purchases.

 

[dapaterson]

For surveillance platforms the on station time is that metric, not the range.

 

[Nvlgzr]

For surveillance platforms the on station time is that metric, not the range.

I’m curious what is the typical on station time and transit times of the E3 and how that would compare with Globaleye.

 

[MilEME09]

Why would you want to put the non-stealth, 4th Gen fighter in Europe where AD density is the highest and the stealthy 5th Gen fighter in NORAD where the primary purpose is deterrence which implies being seen by a potential adversary?

I didnt say F35s in NA and Gripens in europe, simply stated the number of squadrons I'd want to see