The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Kirkhill]

india has split orders before...

F-35 vs Rafale vs SU-57

Air Battles Intensify in India Between F-35, Su-57E, and Rafale over One of the World's Biggest Jet Deals

A massive $40 billion defense move ends years of speculation as a high-stakes fighter program finally enters its most critical phase yet.

indiandefencereview.com

 

[Quirky]

13 years to get ther first Gripen flying.

Brazil is entering the final stretch of a historic milestone and promises to complete the first F-39 Gripen assembled in the country by the end of March 2026, a step that places it in the select club of supersonic fighter jet manufacturers

Brazil prepares to unveil its first locally assembled F-39 Gripen fighter jet, marking a major step into the global club of supersonic jet builders.

www.ecoticias.com

What an accomplishment.

 

[FJAG]

13 years to get ther first Gripen flying.

Brazil is entering the final stretch of a historic milestone and promises to complete the first F-39 Gripen assembled in the country by the end of March 2026, a step that places it in the select club of supersonic fighter jet manufacturers

Brazil prepares to unveil its first locally assembled F-39 Gripen fighter jet, marking a major step into the global club of supersonic jet builders.

www.ecoticias.com

What an accomplishment.

I presume that was said sarcastically and if so, I agree.

Brazil already had a sophisticated aircraft manufacturing capability to start with. This project was primarily restricted to assembly of elements manufactured in Sweden. And yet, with all that working for it, this project took 12 years from contract signing to first product rolling off the assembly line. That doesn't bode well for Saab bringing 10,000 jobs to Canada which, IMHO, is a ludicrous number to start with.

 

[YZT580]

13 years to get ther first Gripen flying.

Brazil is entering the final stretch of a historic milestone and promises to complete the first F-39 Gripen assembled in the country by the end of March 2026, a step that places it in the select club of supersonic fighter jet manufacturers

Brazil prepares to unveil its first locally assembled F-39 Gripen fighter jet, marking a major step into the global club of supersonic jet builders.

www.ecoticias.com

What an accomplishment.

Its not as it would appear. As the article points out they have transferred tons of technology to factories in Brazil whilst their own engineers have been attending courses in Sweden.
The project is about much more than final assembly. Brazilian engineers and technicians have spent years training in Sweden as part of an extensive technology transfer effort, while suppliers at home now manufacture structural parts and sensitive electronics.

AEL Sistemas in Porto Alegre supplies the wide area display and head up display for Brazilian Gripen cockpits, and Saab notes that these systems are now offered on future Gripen E and F orders worldwide.

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13 years from contract to production is not excessive when you are going beyond setting up just an assembly line.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Its not as it would appear. As the article points out they have transferred tons of technology to factories in Brazil whilst their own engineers have been attending courses in Sweden.
The project is about much more than final assembly. Brazilian engineers and technicians have spent years training in Sweden as part of an extensive technology transfer effort, while suppliers at home now manufacture structural parts and sensitive electronics.
13 years from contract to production is not excessive when you are going beyond setting up just an assembly line.

I fail to see how this would be effectively different from what Saab is offering Canada at the end of the day, as we would need a similar sort of technology and expertise transfer to undertake this sort of work. Embraer is not some backwater operation, they are a substantial aerospace firm who has competitive products regional jet liners, military light attack platforms, military airlift transports, various business jets and utility crop dusters. Bombardier, IMP or whoever is getting these hypothetical Gripen contracts will have to go through basically the same process.

This is the sort of boondoggle people are trying to sign Canada up for when Saab is struggling to meet its production figures right now and the CF-18 fleet is only becoming more decrepit by the year.

 

[Czech_pivo]

13 years to get ther first Gripen flying.

Brazil is entering the final stretch of a historic milestone and promises to complete the first F-39 Gripen assembled in the country by the end of March 2026, a step that places it in the select club of supersonic fighter jet manufacturers

Brazil prepares to unveil its first locally assembled F-39 Gripen fighter jet, marking a major step into the global club of supersonic jet builders.

www.ecoticias.com

What an accomplishment.

Dude, its Brazil - at least 50% of the timeline was spent just agreeing on the number of hours worked in a day and if the new company would sponsor the local football team.

 

[Quirky]

Dude, its Brazil - at least 50% of the timeline was spent just agreeing on the number of hours worked in a day and if the new company would sponsor the local football team.

Replace Brazil with Canada and football with hockey.