The War in Ukraine

[KevinB]

Some cautiously good news. Clearly he has a new guy on nap scheduling and McD's run duty.

Trump signals support for sending more Patriot missiles to Ukraine

"They (Ukraine) do want to have the anti missiles. As they call them, the Patriots, and we're going to see if we can make some available," U.S. President Donald Trump said.

kyivindependent.com

He's also happy (and taking credit) for the NATO 5%

NATO allies agree to boost defense spending to 5% at The Hague summit

In a press conference before heading back to Washington, Trump struck a conciliatory tone as he sought to harvest praise for the spending boost.

www.defensenews.com

Plus it seems that he slowly being sees (or remember) a majority of Americans (including a majority of Republicans) support arming the piss out of Ukraine if for no other reason than to fuck Russia.

 

[Kirkhill]

Everybody grows up eventually I guess.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Everybody grows up eventually I guess.

 

[RangerRay]

He's also happy (and taking credit) for the NATO 5%

NATO allies agree to boost defense spending to 5% at The Hague summit

In a press conference before heading back to Washington, Trump struck a conciliatory tone as he sought to harvest praise for the spending boost.

www.defensenews.com

Plus it seems that he slowly being sees (or remember) a majority of Americans (including a majority of Republicans) support arming the piss out of Ukraine if for no other reason than to fuck Russia.

While I agree that most Americans and Republicans side with Ukraine, I doubt that Trump has seen the light.

Comrade Trump

June 22, 2025

dianefrancis.substack.com

 

[HavokFour]

Could also just be that thing he tends to do, and all depends on who spoke to him last when questioned.

This is also quite a bit of a departure from his "normal".

'It's possible' Putin will invade more than Ukraine, says Donald Trump

The US president said at the NATO summit on Wednesday that negotiations over a ceasefire in Ukraine have proved trickier than people thought, and that Putin is "more difficult" than expected. #EuropeNews

www.euronews.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Trump: I’ll make Spain pay for Nato spending snub

US president’s threat comes after Pedro Sanchez refused to meet Nato defence spending target

www.telegraph.co.uk

I wonder what the Spanish tariff will be to equal his definition of 5%.

Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he would make Spain “pay twice as much” in trade tariffs after it refused to honour a Nato agreement to increase defence spending to 5 per cent of GDP.

The US president singled out Spain for declining to meet the target and said he would seek to punish the Mediterranean country in trade negotiations unless it changed course.

But now we know we are all safe and he will defend us ..... Won't he?

Trump says US would protect NATO allies, recognizing that ‘they love their countries’

NATO’s annual summit this week focused heavily on Article 5, the alliance’s collective defense guarantee.

apnews.com

 

[KevinB]

Don’t tell the NWO’s in the RCN…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938670517881381024

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Shocked, utterly shocked.

I also bet that Ukraine knows which ones are which and purposely does not target them.

 

[The Bread Guy]

A few lessons from a Slovak who says he's worked drones in the UKR theatre ....

I Fought in Ukraine and Here’s Why FPV Drones Kind of Suck - War on the Rocks

In 2024 and 2025, I served for six months as an international volunteer on a first-person view attack drone team in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. My team

warontherocks.com

Also archived here https://archive.is/DpPck

Key takeaways:

• (Based on this guy's alleged experience) not as effective as one might hope (4/10 hitting intended target, 2-3/10 when you include aborted missions from weather, jamming and tech issues)
• More expensive than alternatives (mortars, for example, which do better in all weather conditions)
• More fragile (at least what's out there now) than one expects (bad weather = no go)
• Training useful pilot-operators takes WAY longer than expected

Those last two, one would hope, would improve with more R&D and combat experience feeding into the loop, but still good to keep in mind for now.

 

[HavokFour]

A few lessons from a Slovak who says he's worked drones in the UKR theatre ....

I Fought in Ukraine and Here’s Why FPV Drones Kind of Suck - War on the Rocks

In 2024 and 2025, I served for six months as an international volunteer on a first-person view attack drone team in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. My team

warontherocks.com

Also archived here https://archive.is/DpPck

Key takeaways:

• (Based on this guy's alleged experience) not as effective as one might hope (4/10 hitting intended target, 2-3/10 when you include aborted missions from weather, jamming and tech issues)
• More expensive than alternatives (mortars, for example, which do better in all weather conditions)
• More fragile (at least what's out there now) than one expects (bad weather = no go)
• Training useful pilot-operators takes WAY longer than expected

Those last two, one would hope, would improve with more R&D and combat experience feeding into the loop, but still good to keep in mind for now.

Jakub Janovsky from Oryx has some issues with that article, of which I too share. A few other FPV operators also chimed in.

https://bsky.app/profile/rebel44cz.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lslp2fryec2j

And to add one of the things Jakub didn't cover, he claimed to have served from 2024-2025 on the hottest part of the front and apparently never saw, experienced, or was on the receiving end of a fiber optic or machine vision enabled drone? Certainly nothing like anything a few of my friends have described, especially not the handful that too were in that very same neck of the woods in the same timeframe.

 

[HavokFour]

A lot of smoke and mirrors in Mariupol.

Ukraine war: Mariupol residents deny Russian stories about the city

Russian shattered Mariupol with a months-long siege in 2022. Now, it says it's rebuilding it.

www.bbc.com

 

[The Bread Guy]

Couple of billion via Canada from seized USSR 2.0 assets in UKR's in box ....

Ukraine receives about USD 1.7B from Canada funded by frozen Russian assets

As part of the Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) initiative, Canada has provided Ukraine with approximately USD 1.7 billion (2.3 billion Canadian dollars), funded through revenue generated from frozen Russian assets. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

 

[HavokFour]

Seems there has been a recent upgrade to bomber drones, 105-125mm shells. A delayed fuse to ensure it goes through any foliage or cover too, as a cherry on top.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939400721297760300

 

[AmmoTech90]

Seems there has been a recent upgrade to bomber drones, 105-125mm shells. A delayed fuse to ensure it goes through any foliage or cover too, as a cherry on top.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939400721297760300

Looks like a projectile from 73mm SPG-9 or 2A28 gun. 3 to 8 kg weight, HE, HE-Frag, HEAT available. A far cry from 105mm weighing around 15kg. Also, both SPG-9 and 2A28 are smooth bore so easier to modify the fuze to not require acceleration instead of not needing acceleration and spin.

 

[Kirkhill]

Shell weights


Bomb and Shell weights
60mm ~2 kg
81mm ~ 4 kg
105mm ~ 15 kg
120mm ~ 16 kg
125 mm ~ 23 kg

Malloy T80 UAS - 30 kg

155 mm ~ 43 kg
152 mm ~ 44 kg

Malloy T150 UAS - 68 kg

SDB Warhead - 93 kg
Mk 81 - 250 lb (113 kg)
SDB Total - 130 kg

Malloy T400 UAS - 180 kg

Mk 82 - 500 lb (227 kg)
*Stingray Torpedo - 267 kg

*Malloy T600 UAS - 200 kg
Malloy T650 UAS - 300 kg for 30 km

Mk 82 - 1000 lb (454 kg)
Mk 84 - 2000 lb (908 kg)

Malloy T600 (rated at 200 kg payload ) lifting 267 kg Stingray torpedo.

Malloy Aeronautics – Revolutionizing Airborne Logistics

www.malloyaeronautics.com

This is the 180 kg rated T400 on casevac drills
The T650 is being marketed for casevac.

These would seem to put 500 lb bombs in the hands of field gunners in direct and general support regiments, as well as on small ships like Continental Defence Corvettes, along with torpedoes and depth charges.

...

The cost per UAS is projected to be about the price of a small car - ie 10s of thousands of dollars (20-90) as opposed to millions. 4 zeroes instead of 6 or 7.

 

[PuckChaser]

Lifting is way different than dropping which is way different than dropping accurately.

 

[MilEME09]

Its okay, add it to the list of russian war crimes politicians don't seem to care about

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939778728810143765

 

[Kirkhill]

Lifting is way different than dropping which is way different than dropping accurately.

And dropping from the hover is way different than dropping while moving at 400 mph.

Especially if you don't mind getting shot out of the sky and can choose your release altitude.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Shell weights


Bomb and Shell weights
60mm ~2 kg
81mm ~ 4 kg
105mm ~ 15 kg
120mm ~ 16 kg
125 mm ~ 23 kg

Malloy T80 UAS - 30 kg

155 mm ~ 43 kg
152 mm ~ 44 kg

Malloy T150 UAS - 68 kg

SDB Warhead - 93 kg
Mk 81 - 250 lb (113 kg)
SDB Total - 130 kg

Malloy T400 UAS - 180 kg

Mk 82 - 500 lb (227 kg)
*Stingray Torpedo - 267 kg

*Malloy T600 UAS - 200 kg
Malloy T650 UAS - 300 kg for 30 km

Mk 82 - 1000 lb (454 kg)
Mk 84 - 2000 lb (908 kg)

Malloy T600 (rated at 200 kg payload ) lifting 267 kg Stingray torpedo.

View attachment 94352

Malloy Aeronautics – Revolutionizing Airborne Logistics

www.malloyaeronautics.com

This is the 180 kg rated T400 on casevac drills
The T650 is being marketed for casevac.

These would seem to put 500 lb bombs in the hands of field gunners in direct and general support regiments, as well as on small ships like Continental Defence Corvettes, along with torpedoes and depth charges.

...

The cost per UAS is projected to be about the price of a small car - ie 10s of thousands of dollars (20-90) as opposed to millions. 4 zeroes instead of 6 or 7.

A bomb dropped from a Drone can be designed very differently than one intended to be fired from artillery gun. Better to start designing effective bombs for drones, that minimizes weight, while maintaining effectiveness and safe handling.

 

[Kirkhill]

A bomb dropped from a Drone can be designed very differently than one intended to be fired from artillery gun. Better to start designing effective bombs for drones, that minimizes weight, while maintaining effectiveness and safe handling.

I am pretty sure that is why a mortar bomb looks like a bomb and not a shell.