This is such crap!!!!!!!

[pappy]

since when has hollywood stayed true to actual history?  SPR was a good move as far as special effects, had it was just a move.  I highly doubt the commanders at the time would have borthered to try to save one individual as the move would have you believe. 

Can we all say "fiction" I knew you could.....

And why does it supprise people that liberal US media would stop this movie from being shown?  They don't eacatly support our military....  They're pissed over the elections, they will be going out of thier way to discredit the US military and Bush.

The only time the US media / Hollywood come even close to supporting our troops is when there is money in it for them.  On as in WW2 they used making propaganda movies as a way out of serving on the front lines.

 

[Recce41]

Fellas
Lt. Colonel James Earl Rudder, lead the 2nd. Three companies, D, E, and F assaulted the perpendicular cliffs of Point Du Hoc. The Fifth Ranger Battalion activated September 1, 1943 at Camp Forrest, commanded by Lt. Colonel Max Schneider, former exec officer of the 4th Ranger Battalion, was part of the provisional Ranger Assault Force commanded by Colonel Rudder. It landed on Omaha Beach with three companies of the 2nd Bn., A, B and C, where elements of the 116th Regiment of the 29th Inf. Division were pinned down by murderous cross fire and mortars from the heights above. It was there that the situation was so critical that General Omar Bradley was seriously considering redirecting reinforcements to other areas of the beachhead. And it was then and there that General Norman D. Cota, Assistant Division Commander of the 29th Division, gave the now famous order that has become the Motto of the 75th Ranger Regiment: "Ranger lead the way".

 

[Veterans son]

Recce41

Thanks for an excellent and informative message!
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[enfield]

And why does it supprise people that liberal US media would stop this movie from being shown?   They don't eacatly support our military....   They're pissed over the elections, they will be going out of thier way to discredit the US military and Bush.

Actually it was the Federal Communications Commission that has made a number of rulings that made it clear that a movie like SPR - which has swearing, violence, and gore - is inappropriate for prime time TV. Some ABC affiliates chose to carry it, some chose not too. The ones that chose not too did so because they earnestly believed they would lose their license based on th extreme punishments leveled on other stations that ahve crossed the FCC's line. So, in this case, its the liberal media which wants to show SPR, but the conservative government doesn't want to offend anyone. This is a change, because SPR has been shown before on TV, and although there were complainst to the FCC, it was ruled to be okay for prime time TV.

 

[Infanteer]

Any mistakes Speilburg and Hanks made in SPR for the sake of a story they fixed in Band of Brothers.

Where the movie fails in the historic department (Bloody Omaha was only 20 minutes?!?) it makes up for in raw emotion.   SPR does own a place in my DVD collection.   Guys, it's story telling - rent "The World at War" if you want the straight beans.

 

[Acorn]

SPR's portrayal of Omaha was only 20 minutes, but how does that compare to The Longest Day? Film often compresses events. I haven't seen anything that indicates the first 20 min of SPR was intended to be real time (though I suppose it could be interpreted to be so.)

All film does this, even the excellent Band of Brothers. Let's not make too much of that, there's enough in SPR to dislike. The first 20 min are the most relevant and realistic part of the film.

Acorn

 

[foerestedwarrior]

What are you talking about?   Elements of two Ranger Battalions did indeed land on Omaha - where do you think their motto RANGERS LEAD THE WAY comes from?   General Norman Cota is reported to have looked at soldiers floundering on the beach "You're Rangers, aren't you?   Then get up and lead the way!"   This may be a fictionalized version of what really happened - but IIRC the 2nd and 5th Ranger Battalions were both represented on the landing beaches, not Pointe du Hoc.

My bad, i read something wrong, i was going of memory that is 6 years old from when i lived in Normandy, though i have only found reference to rangers on omaha being this;

1st and 29th (U.S.) Divisions, supported by the 5th Ranger Battalion and 5th Engineer Special Brigade.

This is what i ment about point du hoc.
http://www.abmc.gov/ph.htm