This may be a silly question about RMC degree's but.....

[IBM]

Ahhhh, I bet all the current and former RSMs on this forum love to hear their future leaders talk like this. At least most of us ring knockers learn a little decorum going through the system.

In that case, said RSMs would all probably have aneurysms of some kind if I showed up to work in my "Chinese hobo" look.

 

[wannabe SF member]

Don't even get me started on the DEU 1A thing.... all right, since you asked...

Long story short:
ROTP/RETP student fails one of the 4 pillars but passes university: wears 1A's on grad parade.

UTPNCM student passes every damn thing thrown at them (and stays married in the process): wears 1A's on parade.

Did I take offence to someone "failing" their program looking similar to me?.....As a matter of fact, I did.

As far as the .rmc after you name, I received it (as did all Otters in my year)....and I certianly did not finish all 4 pillars as the ROTP/RETP students did.

As far as the degree goes, mine is also from DCS (BMASc). I will have to look at it to confirm exactly what is on it.

Wook

I know at least a few people that would gladly graduate in 1A's instead of scarlets. (And it ain't just cuz they're more comfortable.)

 

[Lumber]

I've always used the term "ring-knocker" in much the same way as the term "meat-head", is it somthing other than derogatory? (I mean that as a legitimate question)

No, it isn't; it is derogatory in that it's used to label us as people who feel we are inherently better than other, which we do not. That said, we're pretty easy going and aren't too insulted byt he term, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. An MP might jokingly call himself a "meat-head", an armored soldier a "zipper- head", an artillery soldier a "drop-short", etc.. but none of these people would actually appreciate you referring to them in such a manner. Same goes for ring-knockers. Someone might ask me, "did you go to RMC or civi-U?" and I might reply, "I'm a ring-knocker,  :crybaby:" but I wouldn't appreciate you referring to me as "that ring-knocker over there" to all your buddies.

I've never actually heard anyone I work with from RMC say anything about being better than any other officers because they/we went to clown college RMC.

In fact, I would be glad to point out that I was able to attend classes wearing whatever the hell I want (at least within the norm expectations of society in general ;D) without worrying about dress & deportment all all that crap.

Dress & Deportment and all that crap? I am proud to wear a uniform and to have composed myself in a professional manner by, oh I don't know, actually attending class. If you think dress & deportment are all crap, you need to think very strongly about your chosen profession.

 

[chrisf]

No, it isn't; it is derogatory in that it's used to label us as people who feel we are inherently better than other, which we do not. That said, we're pretty easy going and aren't too insulted byt he term, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. An MP might jokingly call himself a "meat-head", an armored soldier a "zipper- head", an artillery soldier a "drop-short", etc.. but none of these people would actually appreciate you referring to them in such a manner. Same goes for ring-knockers. Someone might ask me, "did you go to RMC or civi-U?" and I might reply, "I'm a ring-knocker,  :crybaby:" but I wouldn't appreciate you referring to me as "that ring-knocker over there" to all your buddies.

The only times I've ever heard it/used it, it was usually preceeded by some incarnation of the f-word, in reference to a officer cadet or 2LT who "knows everything" because "they went to RMC" (It doesn't come up often, but again, this is the only time I've ever heard it, which is why I assumed it was derogatory)

I've never actually heard anyone I work with from RMC say anything about being better than any other officers because they/we went to clown college RMC.

I've never heard it myself, but this might be helpful if it ever comes up.

"Have you done anything useful since then?"

 

[IBM]

Dress & Deportment and all that crap? I am proud to wear a uniform and to have composed myself in a professional manner by, oh I don't know, actually attending class. If you think dress & deportment are all crap, you need to think very strongly about your chosen profession.

Wow, either my attempt at sarcastic humor has failed miserably, or some people just did not get my attempt at it. Chill out, dude. Maybe the QM can issue you some sense of humor. 

 

[George Wallace]

Wow, either my attempt at sarcastic humor has failed miserably, or some people just did not get my attempt at it. Chill out, dude. Maybe the QM can issue you some sense of humor. 

Don't we issue our own humour anymore? 

 

[Shamrock]

In the hallowed halls of the selectively literate, humor is interpretive.

 

[George Wallace]

In the hallowed halls of the selectively literate, humor is interpretive.

Like 'dance'?

 

[Herky]

Does a Bachelor's degree through the Division of continuing studies have any less merit than a degree obtained through full time studies?

like for example, does the DCS degree say that it is a degree from the Royal Military of College of Canada with a disclaimer on it saying "through the division of continuing studies"


and does it hold any less weight when progressing through the ranks??

is it still "worthy" of Ring Knocker status??


It's not really a big deal, its just more for curiosity sake

I'm currently a full time CF member, and working on my bachelor's through DCS

As a CF NCM (Recently retired Air Tech CWO) who holds a BMASC and did it entirely through DL, I can tell you that it is worth your time and effort.  Don't worry about all the retoric about fulltime vs parttime, UTP vs Cadet....it's all just that retoric.  I gained a valuable sense of self accomplishment and confidence by attaining a life goal while still working and deploying fulltime.  I graduated alongside the UTs and Cadets at the college and have the same degree, RMC tie and ring.  At the end of the day, my studies helped me in my job and were a definate PER booster.  I might also add that outside the CF, an RMC degree is highly regarded and noone asks "did you do it F/T or DL?".  It helped me secure a fulltime permanent position with a major defense contractor.  Best of Luck...continue your studies....it'll pay off.

 

[Danjanou]

See this is why I avoid the whole issue and just tell people at parties that I'm a Dolphin trainer and specialize in teaching them interpretive dance……. I even have business cards made up.  8)

 

[Journeyman]

.... just tell people at parties that I'm a Dolphin trainer and specialize in teaching them interpretive dance....

Given what you really do for a living, I can't blame you.  ;D

 

[Danjanou]

Given what you really do for a living, I can't blame you.  ;D

True dat, mind I did consider either Walmart Greeter or Univeristy Grad Student  they're more or less the same I hear. >

 

[Strike]

I might also add that outside the CF, an RMC degree is highly regarded and noone asks "did you do it F/T or DL?".

No, but if they are an ex-cadet (and I'm referring to the "older" ones, of which I don't yet count myself...shut up JM) they may ask you what your college number is and look at you funny when it is an alpha-numeric one )that does not even match the UTPNMC numbers) instead of all numeric like what an RMC cadet gets.

Just sayin'.

 

[GAP]

Quote from: Journeyman on Today at 11:43:14

    Given what you really do for a living, I can't blame you.  ;D

True dat, mind I did consider either Walmart Greeter or Prof at Queens, they're more or less the same I hear. >

Actually, I think you picked the harder of the choices....