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Thoughts on Citizens Groups like TPAC

The_Falcon

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Just surfing the net, and occasion I wind up on sites for groups like TPAC www.tpac.ca (Toronto Police Accountability Coalition) which is run by leftist former Toronto Mayor John Sewell.  TPAC's main goal is to try and institute there own version "accountability" on to the Toronto Police Service.  Now normally the Police board in Toronto has listened to their ideas and filed them away.  However with current board's very left leaning stance, I think they may actually take some of thier ideas (which range from the quaint to the absurd) seriously.  In thier latest bulletin dated 15 Dec 2004 about half-way down they have listed "their" priorities for the police and the new Cheif.  They plan on presenting them to next board meeting in Jan.  The board has indicated they will invite public comment on creating the selection criteria for a new chief. If they listen and accept stuff like this, Toronto is going to be a very interesting place to live in soon. 

"Their" priorities as a result of members survey.

The results of the survey show a high degree of agreement among respondents.

The five key points for the police service are:

1. Create mechanisms for better accountability
2. End programs that target marginalized groups including homeless people,
3. Implement recommendations of audits, inquests and other police service reviews, such as Jane Doe audit and Edmond Yu inquest
4. Work more co-operatively with services such as women and youth services
5. Make more efficient use of current financial allocations
immigrants and refuges, and queer community events


Very little or no support was provided for the following suggested possibilities:

A. Increase the number of officers
B. Secure funding to expand police services
C. More emphasis on controlling youth crime
D. Use more video surveillance
E. Helicopters

Spend more time being touchy-feely with more resources diverted away from activities related to crime control, and do it with fewer officer and less money.

Their Criteria for Chief is in the same vein.

The five key priorities for characteristics of a new police chief:

1. Supports independent review of complaints against the police
2. Is able to work with diverse communities by welcoming meaningful consultation and incorporating feedback
3. Effectively addresses corruption and allegations of corruption within the force
4. Takes effective action to limit racial profiling.
5. Understands need to depoliticize the role of the chief while working effectively with governments


Little support was provided for the following key characteristics of a police chief:

A. Negotiate for more money.
B. Wants to improve public image
C. Strong leadership

They want a chief with no spine.  In my own opinion Fantio exemplified their first 4 points. 

There are other interesting reads on their site as well, such as "Guidelines for Police Behaviour at demonstrations" That one made me laugh and cry.  Thought this might lead to some interesting discussions.


 
Are you always going to post 3 meaningless words everytime or do you ever have anything substanial to post?
 
 Okay, as a future police officer I do respect their opinions, however TPAC just sounds like a bunch of windbags.  No offence to anyone who supports such ideas, but they aren't feasible.  In a perfect world there would be no racial profiling or picking out any population over another....but the truth of the matter is that in most cities, looking at statistics, the majority of crime is committed by certain groups of people, whether they be white, black, purple, poor, rich, middle class.   In Vancouver, a lot of resources go into the Downtown Eastside....which is a good idea, seeing as how the majority of crime is committed there, and they need more help than rich snobs in North Van.  HAHA, okay, now I'm babbling.

  In all honesty, yes such groups need to be given respect, but only to a certain degree....asking police to do more than they already do, and with the same number of officers, and the same budget is assinine!  Officers in Canada are stretched too thin as it is, which is unfortunate.  I don't know what the budget is like for say the OPP, as only Ontario and Newfoundland have provincial police forces, but where I live, Surrey BC, we have RCMP, and currently the citizen to officer ratio is about 280:1, whereas in most other places it's about 150:1, maybe slightly higher, but not much.  

  It's unfortunate that people really don't know the status of police officers in Canada, nor do they understand that they are actually more accountable for their occupation that just about anyone else in the world.  I'm assuming these ideas are stemming from things like the Vancouver 6, or the Toronto 6.  

  Public outcry is starting to drive me crazy!
 
Are you refering to myself Ex-Dragoon?  Cause if you are if believe you are mistaken.
 
No was referring to something M16 posted which has since been deleted.
 
Gilligan said:
 I don't know what the budget is like for say the OPP, as only Ontario and Newfoundland have provincial police forces,

IIRC, Quebec has a provincial police force too.
 
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