Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Halifax Tar]

So... The Maritimes and Prairies need to improve themselves to attract people?

Seats are allocated based on where people live. If Nova Scotia wants more seats they need to attract more people.

Thanks, I'm well aware of how it works.

 

[dapaterson]

NS has done just that. The Provinces' population has grown by 140,000 or 15 % in the last 5 years. Something about that Covid cohesion and much better housing prices compared to Ontario.

And in another 200 years the great great grandchildren of those 140,000 will still be "the new folks in town"

 

[Remius]

So... The Maritimes and Prairies need to improve themselves to attract people?

Seats are allocated based on where people live. If Nova Scotia wants more seats they need to attract more people.

That’s the catch as well. A lot of rural and remote areas don’t want more people. Can’t have it both ways.

 

[Remius]

And in another 200 years the great great grandchildren of those 140,000 will still be "the new folks in town"

 

[Kirkhill]

It's about lifestyles and choices. Some folks relish pubs and the company of others. Others enjoy their own company.

There should be enough room for both in Canada

 

[Furniture]

That's a lot of words to say half of Canada's population
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Which also means half don't live there, and those Canadians deserve to have systems/laws that work for them as much as they do for those in the densely populated areas.

 

[FSTO]

Watching Clarkson Farm and in Season 2, Caleb who is from Cogswell and has rarely left the shire in his 22 years is now a father. His son was born in Oxford and Caleb calls him a foreigner.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Which also means half don't live there, and those Canadians deserve to have systems/laws that work for them as much as they do for those in the densely populated areas.

As someone living outside "the red triangle", I agree. Just reminding folks of the dynamic.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Which also means half don't live there, and those Canadians deserve to have systems/laws that work for them as much as they do for those in the densely populated areas.

Exactly, otherwise those areas desire independence in one way or another.

Simple examples of laws that make more sense in some areas than others. Street racing laws in Ontario, if your 40+ in a under 90 zone thats now street racing (as opposed to before it being 50 over).

The reason that doesn’t make sense for rural areas is you can easily come off the highway at 90k to 50k or 70k zones without realizing it. There is one particular area I know of which goes 90-70-50 very quickly and if you miss one of those signs you could very easily end up doing 40+ in a 50 zone.

So instead of catching someone street racing in a residential neighbourhood, you now nailed someone just travelling along the road unaware.

 

[dapaterson]

Exactly, otherwise those areas desire independence in one way or another.

Simple examples of laws that make more sense in some areas than others. Street racing laws in Ontario, if your 40+ in a under 90 zone thats now street racing (as opposed to before it being 50 over).

The reason that doesn’t make sense for rural areas is you can easily come off the highway at 90k to 50k or 70k zones without realizing it. There is one particular area I know of which goes 90-70-50 very quickly and if you miss one of those signs you could very easily end up doing 40+ in a 50 zone.

So instead of catching someone street racing in a residential neighbourhood, you now nailed someone just travelling along the road unaware.

Physics doesn't care if it's urban or rural. That sounds more like a road design issue than a law issue.

 

[Halifax Tar]

As someone living outside "the red triangle", I agree. Just reminding folks of the dynamic.

It's a broken dynamic that we have the power to fix. But we won't and it will probably be a factor in our demise.

 

[Haggis]

Exactly, otherwise those areas desire independence in one way or another.

Simple examples of laws that make more sense in some areas than others. Street racing laws in Ontario, if your 40+ in a under 90 zone thats now street racing (as opposed to before it being 50 over).

The reason that doesn’t make sense for rural areas is you can easily come off the highway at 90k to 50k or 70k zones without realizing it. There is one particular area I know of which goes 90-70-50 very quickly and if you miss one of those signs you could very easily end up doing 40+ in a 50 zone.

So instead of catching someone street racing in a residential neighbourhood, you now nailed someone just travelling along the road unaware.

No excuse. Drive to conditions or move to an area where you can take public transportation and not endanger anyone else. I've seen enough wrecks, thank you.

 

[Kirkhill]

Which also means half don't live there, and those Canadians deserve to have systems/laws that work for them as much as they do for those in the densely populated areas.

We have a running start on that problem. 13 separate jurisdictions not beholden to the federal state, each with their own schedule of responsibilities and authorities. If only Ottawa were prepared to actually accept a mosaic.

 

[daftandbarmy]

So... The Maritimes and Prairies need to improve themselves to attract people?

Seats are allocated based on where people live. If Nova Scotia wants more seats they need to attract more people.

Alberta seems to have figured it out. People are flocking there, mainly from BC and Ontario it seems...

Signs of strain amid Alberta's population boom​

'We've just got to make sure that we don't become victims of our own success,' business leader says​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/signs-strain-alberta-population-boom-1.7174339#:~:text=pros%20and%20cons.-,In%202023%2C%20the%20western%20province%20saw%20its%20population%20surge%20by,million%2C%20according%20to%20Statistics%20Canada.&text=That's%20the%20largest%20annual%20increase,to%20the%20province%20every%20day.

 

[Eaglelord17]

No excuse. Drive to conditions or move to an area where you can take public transportation and not endanger anyone else. I've seen enough wrecks, thank you.

The conditions are fine at 90, fundamentally it is the same road it was just 90 at, only now its listed at 50. The only real difference being not much in the way of warning as to the speed dropping. The speeds also pick up real fast just after that 50 zone back to 90 again.

The whole point in street racing laws was to nail racers in crowded residential areas or weaving in/out of traffic on highways. It wasn’t intended to nail your rural citizen who missed a road sign and now is facing some serious charges.

Lots of highways in this country were made for 70 miles a hour in a 1960s car. Instead we drive at 90km in a 2020s vehicle which is substantially safer, and easier to handle. We could substantially raise the speed limits on most roads/highways if we wanted without any issue.

Laws made for us by people that will never live with the same conditions as us.

 

[dimsum]

Lots of highways in this country were made for 70 miles a hour in a 1960s car. Instead we drive at 90km in a 2020s vehicle which is substantially safer, and easier to handle. We could substantially raise the speed limits on most roads/highways if we wanted without any issue.

Laws made for us by people that will never live with the same conditions as us.

On the other hand:

5% increase in average speed leads to approximately a 10% increase in injury accidents, and a 20% increase in fatal crashes. In other words, “moderate” speeding (within 10 or 15 km/h of the posted limit) contributes to a large extent to serious road crashes, with results that as a whole are comparable to the results of cases of more extreme speeds, because they are much more common.

https://www.paho.org/sites/default/files/2018-SpeedRoadCrashes_ENGLISH_FINAL.pdf

 

[The Bread Guy]

Good question, Michelle ...

A woman has never led the Liberals. Why?

With a potential Trud-exit looming on their horizon, Liberal partisans should be introspective about the challenges facing women seeking the top job within their own tent.

michellerempelgarner.substack.com

Also archived here.

 

[QV]

Alberta seems to have figured it out. People are flocking there, mainly from BC and Ontario it seems...

Signs of strain amid Alberta's population boom​

'We've just got to make sure that we don't become victims of our own success,' business leader says​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/signs-strain-alberta-population-boom-1.7174339#:~:text=pros%20and%20cons.-,In%202023%2C%20the%20western%20province%20saw%20its%20population%20surge%20by,million%2C%20according%20to%20Statistics%20Canada.&text=That's%20the%20largest%20annual%20increase,to%20the%20province%20every%20day.

Huh, I guess Danial Smith and the UCP are doing something right.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Alberta seems to have figured it out. People are flocking there, mainly from BC and Ontario it seems...

Is being the urban housing market of last resort really "figuring it out"?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Good question, Michelle ...

A woman has never led the Liberals. Why?

With a potential Trud-exit looming on their horizon, Liberal partisans should be introspective about the challenges facing women seeking the top job within their own tent.

michellerempelgarner.substack.com

Also archived here.

Perhaps the CPC are a bit nervous about Carney taking the reigns.

Is being the urban housing market of last resort really "figuring it out"?

My understanding is as far as the land of opportunity goes Alberta is about all we have left.