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Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)
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Oldgateboatdriver
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You know, I say "F@#$ the Liberals. They have consistently refused to avail themselves of the capability to remove their leaders through a caucus vote. The law put in place by a review of the rules of parliament adopted after it was brought by back-bench Conservative MP's state that, after an election, when a new Parliamentary session starts, the caucus of every party holds a vote on whether or not they wish to have the power to remove their leader through a vote of the caucus. The Liberals have voted against having such power every single time they had the option of doing so (unlike the Conservatives who have voted every time to give themselves that power).
In other words: a caucus revolt is not available to the Liberals as a result of their own shortsightedness. So I say "suffer you suckers!"
In other words: a caucus revolt is not available to the Liberals as a result of their own shortsightedness. So I say "suffer you suckers!"
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No sympathy for Liberal MP's, especially Cabinet Ministers et al. They performed like trained seals for nine years and allowed themselves to be circumvented/circumcised by the PMO.
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Don't you mean gelded?
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Castrated. That is the clinical term.
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Circumcised, as there are males and females.
daftandbarmy
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He's not very popular with NATO either, it seems...
Canada has been dodging its commitment to NATO for a decade. It may not be able to hold out for much longer.
Over the past several years, Ottawa has become an outlier among the 32-member alliance. It has failed to hit domestic military spending goals, has fallen short on benchmarks to fund new equipment and has no plans to get there.
It’s a stance that has frustrated allies far and wide — from the White House to the halls of Congress to capitals all over Europe.
And it’ll be on members’ minds when they gather this week in Washington for the NATO Summit, where they are expected to press Ottawa to come up with the cash while warning that things could get much worse if Donald Trump returns to the White House.
“What’s happening now that everyone is spending more, the fact that the Canadians aren’t even trying has become obvious,” said Max Bergmann, a former State Department arms control official.
NATO is losing patience with one of its own members — and it’s not who you think
This week’s summit in Washington will get uncomfortable for Canada as allies press for more cash commitments.Canada has been dodging its commitment to NATO for a decade. It may not be able to hold out for much longer.
Over the past several years, Ottawa has become an outlier among the 32-member alliance. It has failed to hit domestic military spending goals, has fallen short on benchmarks to fund new equipment and has no plans to get there.
It’s a stance that has frustrated allies far and wide — from the White House to the halls of Congress to capitals all over Europe.
And it’ll be on members’ minds when they gather this week in Washington for the NATO Summit, where they are expected to press Ottawa to come up with the cash while warning that things could get much worse if Donald Trump returns to the White House.
“What’s happening now that everyone is spending more, the fact that the Canadians aren’t even trying has become obvious,” said Max Bergmann, a former State Department arms control official.
Quirky
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Spend more or else what, exactly?
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Trade sanctions.
GR66
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500% tariff on colourful socks?
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I am thinking the Canadian forestry and auto industries could be in for a rough ride…
daftandbarmy
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And if we do meet our commitments, the (LPC's socialist's paradise) budget will be in for a rough ride
For Canada to meet the target, according to the Parliamentary Budget Officer, Ottawa would need to spend an additional $14.5 billion on annual defence spending in 2024/25. This would increase next year’s deficit by 41.4 per cent while adding more debt and driving up debt interest costs.
Clearly, there’s no way for Canada to meet its NATO spending commitment without blowing through any sense of a deficit or debt target. Put differently, the federal government is unable to meet the demands of its allies without seriously weakening its fiscal position unless it’s finally willing to prioritize such spending over other currently favoured federal initiatives and programs.
When it comes to meeting our international obligations for military spending, poor management of federal finances and suspect prioritization of spending have put Canada between a rock and a hard place.
Canada can’t meet NATO spending target without serious fiscal consequences: op-ed
After recording eight consecutive budget deficits, the Trudeau government plans to run at least five more.
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While Canada could be exposing its soft bits on the auto side (don't know as much about that sector), most of Canada's exported wood stuff heads to the U.S. (and nobody seems to be pushing the softwood lumber tariff issue too hard, Red or Blue, to increase exports, meaning a multi-decade rough ride continues) and Asia. According to these stats (2021), EU's only ~2% of Canada's target for wood products (just under $1B/year out of just under $45B/year total exports), so maybe not quite as vulnerable as auto.
I suspect the real cost'll be fewer invites to the adult tables, so to speak, or more invites to the kids' tables. People I trust say this may already be happening, but it'll get badder over time, perhaps, without real defence spending acceleration.
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Ontario-Québec Dairy: “Hold our beers!”
daftandbarmy
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we may have inadvertently dodged a bullet though…The Nuclear Sub Club enters the chat
PM's former adviser says there's no indication Canada was invited to join AUKUS defence pact
Former Australian prime minister says Canada's unwillingness to adopt nuclear subs caused snub
‘A cruel joke’: Why AUKUS might leave Australia stranded
A group of defence experts says that the Albanese government is on course for a financial and strategic AUKUS disaster, in the final part of an exclusive series.
Book on Aukus ‘fiasco’ says decision to embrace pact will ‘haunt’ Labor for years
Andrew Fowler’s book reveals one of Australia’s most important requirements for its submarines was the ability to work alongside the US in South China Sea
www.theguardian.com
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And if we do meet our commitments, the (LPC's socialist's paradise) budget will be in for a rough ride
For Canada to meet the target, according to the Parliamentary Budget Officer, Ottawa would need to spend an additional $14.5 billion on annual defence spending in 2024/25. This would increase next year’s deficit by 41.4 per cent while adding more debt and driving up debt interest costs.
Clearly, there’s no way for Canada to meet its NATO spending commitment without blowing through any sense of a deficit or debt target. Put differently, the federal government is unable to meet the demands of its allies without seriously weakening its fiscal position unless it’s finally willing to prioritize such spending over other currently favoured federal initiatives and programs.
When it comes to meeting our international obligations for military spending, poor management of federal finances and suspect prioritization of spending have put Canada between a rock and a hard place.
Canada can’t meet NATO spending target without serious fiscal consequences: op-ed
After recording eight consecutive budget deficits, the Trudeau government plans to run at least five more.www.fraserinstitute.org
They could probably start by stopping the billions we send around the world to support despotic dictators and marxist leaning countries, disguised as humanitarian projects.
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Perfect example - although I doubt even PP'll change course & go nuke if he becomes PM, no matter how much more he does for defence.The Nuclear Sub Club enters the chat
PM's former adviser says there's no indication Canada was invited to join AUKUS defence pact
Former Australian prime minister says Canada's unwillingness to adopt nuclear subs caused snub
