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Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

RangerRay said:
Some in the blue Liberal camp tout former BC Liberal premier, Christy Clark.

For me, I have three words to describe her: Liberal Sarah Palin.

She does have many strengths to those outside of BC who don’t know her. She’s very telegenic and is an awesome campaigner. She is seen as a “business-friendly” Liberal and she’s an outsider; she has nothing to do with the current wrecking crew in Ottawa.

If she’s out campaigning, yucking it up with construction and factory workers in her pumps and hard hat in Ontario, she may be a formidable opponent for the Tories. Although she’s educated at SFU and the Sorbonne, she can do her “g’s” like any Joe Lunchbucket blue-collar worker.

She may not do well in BC. People there don’t remember her fondly. She did as well as she did because she wasn’t NDP.

Her biggest weakness is her French is not good, which has been a stumbling block to any British Columbian seeking higher office. But apparently she’s been talking lessons.

If the LPC get someone like her, PP will really have to up his game.
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Very last part is true, but 1) is she ready (still learning French from what I remember from the podcasts)? and 2) does she want it at this point in the party's trajectory? #RedKimCampbell
 
"The prime minister is expected to address Canadians at 10:45 a.m. ET from outside his home at Rideau Cottage."

For some reason, this irks me. Say what you want about his last ~9 years as PM, in the last 6-12 months he has pretty shamelessly put himself first over Canada (and his party) and left Canada in a very very very precarious situation. You think he could at least get dressed and drag his own ass down the street to the capital for an announcement that is going to make international headlines?

dimsum said:
The CPC would have been more centre with O’Toole. Poilievre has been trying to court the social conservatives - example being the whole “warrior vs woke” remarks about the CAF.

Those remarks weren’t for serving members - we are not a large enough voting bloc for any party to care about, or else the CAF wouldn’t be in the state that it is. Those remarks were for the social conservative leaning folks in Canada.
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The pendulum has swung the other way and the moderate person is at the end of their rope with all of the identity politics (i.e. "wokeism") and pandering / virtue-signalling that goes along with it.

I've no doubt that PP is trying to keep the social conservatives in his tent, but I'm not sure you picked a good example to demonstrate that. Now that I live in the real world, when I do end up talking about the CAF it does seem that military effectiveness being affected by 'wokeism' is one of the few tangents that civilians with no ties to the CAF will bring up or ask me about every now and again.
 
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ballz said:
"The prime minister is expected to address Canadians at 10:45 a.m. ET from outside his home at Rideau Cottage."

For some reason, this irks me. Say what you want about his last ~9 years as PM, in the last 6-12 months he has pretty shamelessly put himself first over Canada (and his party) and left Canada in a very very very precarious situation. You think he could at least get dressed and drag his own ass down the street to the capital for an announcement that is going to make international headlines?
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not sure this is a big deal. Many world leaders that step down announce it from the official residence.
 
I think, if I were the Liberal Party, I would have wanted him to just call an election.

No one who is capable of righting the ship is going to run for Leader of the party right now. They are going to take a licking in the election and have basically zero chance of not being replaced within the first 4 years. If Canadians are fed up with CPC by then, whoever wins the next leadership race for the LPC will not be there to replace him.

Proroguing and running a leadership race seems like terrible politics and it's also terrible for Canada right now....
 
I suspect that the plan to prorogue until March 24 is as much about hurting the future government's relations with America, as it is about finding a new LPC leader. I suspect he'll continue to say things to anger Trump supporters, just to keep the temperature up on that front so PP has to be seen as "weak" when dealing with an annoyed America.
 
The record for the shortest tenure as Prime Minister was by Sir Charles Tupper at 68 days in 1896. An election is likely to take about 42 days. So if the opposition is able to force an election as soon as parliament resumes, we could potentially see that record being broken. At the very least they could have a shorter term then John Turner at 79 days and will almost certainly have a shorter time than Kim Campbell at 132 days.
 
ModlrMike said:
Machiavelli enters the chat?
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As good as a boss as he's reported to have been, I can't see Hillier being really happy following any party leader of any team jersey colour.

Meanwhile, let the analysis/sorta post-mortem begin ...
globalnews.ca

ANALYSIS: Justin Trudeau, who thrived as an underdog, loses the fight - National | Globalnews.ca

The long-serving prime minister leaves behind a mixed legacy of political achievement and scandals after announcing his resignation.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
www.thestar.com

Susan Delacourt: There was a public side to Justin Trudeau we all knew. But there was a side to Canada’s PM few of us saw

Back in 2014, delivering his first speech as leader to a Liberal convention, Trudeau said of the Conservatives: “For some reason, I drive them a bit nuts.”
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Archived link to Star column here if previous link doesn't work for you.
 
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