Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Fishbone Jones]

The four hour + video of the clause by clause vote is here.

Tanks!

 

[The Bread Guy]

Perhaps they want Trudeau to own and go down with the ship. Why waste another good candidate starting from the back foot? Maybe the game plan is to let Trudeau run the course and lose, then after a period in opposition while the CPC struggles to repair the enormous LPC fiscal damage and loses support in that effort from the entitled voters, the LPC come rolling in as saviors, safely distanced from the Trudeau years.

Or maybe they haven't picked a Kim Campbell to throw in (yet?) just before the boat sinks?

 

[Kirkhill]

Or maybe they haven't picked a Kim Campbell to throw in (yet?) just before the boat sinks?

It could be a nice "get" for a resume.

 

[daftandbarmy]

It could be a nice "get" for a resume.

Especially for a gullible female politician, which seems to be the pattern ...

 

[Kirkhill]

And both went to High School in Vancouver....

 

[Halifax Tar]

I can't tell if that's sarcasm Tar. With you being a bit of a libertarian, I'd think the idea of a Sin tax would be anathema to you. (I apologize if that's an inaccurate characterization of your political leaning).

Not sarcasm at all. People are making choices to use those products. And they are unhealthy. So tax the crap out of them. I'm all for personal choices.

What I'm not for forced taxation, like income tax.

I'd take higher consumption taxes to lose income taxes.

 

[Quirky]

Yup and it's called a sin tax. And it should be huge. And it should be on all fast foods, crap foods, tobacco products, alcohol, drugs and legalized prostitution.

Not sarcasm at all. People are making choices to use those products. And they are unhealthy. So tax the crap out of them.

Guess it depends if certain protections are used or not.

 

[Kirkhill]

Not sarcasm at all. People are making choices to use those products. And they are unhealthy. So tax the crap out of them. I'm all for personal choices.

What I'm not for forced taxation, like income tax.

I'd take higher consumption taxes to lose income taxes.

Or force them to pay for self-inflicted wounds out of their own pockets?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Or force them to pay for self-inflicted wounds out of their own pockets?

I don't think that's practical.

 

[Haggis]

I don't think that's practical.

Why not? Many jurisdictions will bill you for the cost of a rescue if you are hiking/climbing etc. and need a rescue due to poor/no preparations. How is this different?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Why not? Many jurisdictions will bill you for the cost of a rescue if you are hiking/climbing etc. and need a rescue due to poor/no preparations. How is this different?

What considered self inflicted ?

I think we'd have to pretty definitively define that first.

 

[Remius]

Don Martin: With Trudeau resignation fever rising, a Conservative nightmare appears

With speculation rising that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will follow his father's footsteps in the snow to a pre-election resignation, political columnist Don Martin focuses on one Liberal cabinet minister who's emerging as leadership material -- and who stands out as a fresh-faced contrast to...

www.ctvnews.ca

Interesting take by Don Martin. Fraser wasn’t someone I would have considered as leadership contender. His argument is sound mostly but I think most conservative faithful would rather face Trudeau.

 

[QV]

If Fraser was to be the leader of the LPC, federal election voters only need remember that Fraser has supported Trudeau through all of this.

But I doubt voters will remember that.

 

[YZT580]

Don Martin: With Trudeau resignation fever rising, a Conservative nightmare appears

With speculation rising that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will follow his father's footsteps in the snow to a pre-election resignation, political columnist Don Martin focuses on one Liberal cabinet minister who's emerging as leadership material -- and who stands out as a fresh-faced contrast to...

www.ctvnews.ca

Interesting take by Don Martin. Fraser wasn’t someone I would have considered as leadership contender. His argument is sound mostly but I think most conservative faithful would rather face Trudeau.

With the knives coming out, now is the time for Jagmeet to pull the plug. He will do far better against Justin than he will against new blood.

 

[RangerRay]

JT won’t resign. He really wants to take on PP. He views Scheer and O’Toole as lightweights and PP as a challenge and an existential threat to (Liberal) Canada. JT sees himself as the saviour of the party and the country, in spite of what the polls say.

 

[DBNSG]

JT won’t resign. He really wants to take on PP. He views Scheer and O’Toole as lightweights and PP as a challenge and an existential threat to (Liberal) Canada. JT sees himself as the saviour of the party and the country, in spite of what the polls say.

Not only that but Trudeau HAS to beat the Nine, no almost ten years that Harper was P.M.. That fact is the intellectual basis for the existence of these Liberals. That means we are stuck with Mr Trudeau until about the August long weekend 2025. Hang on folks.

 

[ModlrMike]

Yes, there's a large narcissism quotient at play.

 

[The Bread Guy]

With the knives coming out, now is the time for Jagmeet to pull the plug. He will do far better against Justin than he will against new blood.

They'd even have the trigger they needed right here on pharmacare ...

Liberals say pharmacare bill unlikely to pass this year, despite promise to NDP

OTTAWA - Government House leader Karina Gould warned Tuesday the Liberals are unlikely to get a pharmacare bill passed by the end of the year, despite their promise to do

www.thestar.com

NDP rejects first draft of Liberal pharmacare legislation as deadline looms

According to the deal between the NDP and Liberals, a Canada Pharmacare Act must be passed by the end of 2023.

nationalpost.com

... even if discussions are happening (my prediction: Team Orange'll cave) ...

If Liberals need more time to deliver pharmacare bill, 'more results' expected: NDP

If the federal Liberals need more time to make good on their commitment to pass pharmacare legislation this year, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh will be expecting 'more results,' in exchange.

www.ctvnews.ca

... but commentators of all colour jerseys (including Orange) say NDP's not ready financially or organizationally for an election anytime soon.

Also, huge kernels of truth right here ...

... a large narcissism quotient at play.

... He really wants to take on PP. He views ... PP as a challenge and an existential threat to (Liberal) Canada. JT sees himself as the saviour of the party and the country, in spite of what the polls say.

In a way, both leaders are exactly who the other one wants to fight.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Canada (and trudeau) makes it to the House Select Subcommittee on Weaponization in the Federal Government

 

[Furniture]

Don Martin: With Trudeau resignation fever rising, a Conservative nightmare appears

With speculation rising that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will follow his father's footsteps in the snow to a pre-election resignation, political columnist Don Martin focuses on one Liberal cabinet minister who's emerging as leadership material -- and who stands out as a fresh-faced contrast to...

www.ctvnews.ca

Interesting take by Don Martin. Fraser wasn’t someone I would have considered as leadership contender. His argument is sound mostly but I think most conservative faithful would rather face Trudeau.

Don Martin seems to be grasping at straws with that one... I follow politics more closely than the average voter, and even I had no idea who Fraser is. Since when has competency been what people vote for?

My guess is he's looking for hope where none is to be found.