Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Good2Golf]

Remember, the island of Montreal has more voters than all of Canada east of the island of Montreal.

…Toronto has more three times more seats than the Island of Montréal, so what?

the leader of the party with the most seats or that which has the confidence of the house?

Technically, it depends on the Sovereign’s decision, as represented by the Governor General:

https://www.ourcommons.ca/

The Crown and the Governor General​

In Canada, executive authority is formally vested in the Crown (the Sovereign), and it is exercised in its name by the Governor General, acting on the advice of the Prime Minister and the cabinet. The Constitution reserves certain prerogatives of government for the Crown, including the powers to:

• give royal recommendation to bills that propose to spend government revenues;
• give royal assent to bill passed by the Senate and the House of Commons so that they become law;
• appoint holders of many important offices (e.g., judicial and diplomatic);
• dissolve Parliament before elections, and to open and close parliamentary sessions (at the beginning of each parliamentary session, the Governor General reads the Speech from the Throne, prepared by the Prime Minister, outlining the Government’s objectives for the upcoming session); and
• choose the Prime Minister (by convention, the leader of the party with the most seats in the House of Commons following a general election).

The Governor General is appointed by the Sovereign on the recommendation of the Prime Minister for a tenure of usually five years which may be extended at the discretion of the Sovereign. As the Sovereign’s representative, the Governor General is the Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces, performs several ceremonial functions, and represents Canada in state visits and in other international events.

 

[Rifleman62]

For all you Constitution experts here. Is there anyway PP can go to the GG and request that this Parliament be dissolved based on the HoC impasse (Liberals defying the will of Parliament)?

Can't use Polls as a reason though.

 

[Lumber]

Where are you sourcing this info from, Lumber?

Because everything I've read over the past few years has been about foreign investment fleeing the country at unprecedented levels...

And the 'investment' money coming IN from China as they purchase up large amounts kd real estate and land, as well as resource deposits and mines



But I'm willing.to accept that I live in a bubble at times, so any links you could post to get my nose sniffing in a different direction would be appreciated.

Take your pick. Perhaps you've been reading too much propaganda and not digging deep enough into the truth.

• Foreign investors choose Canada: Canada had the second-largest foreign direct investment (FDI) stock to GDP ratio among G20 countries in 2022. United Nations Conference on Trade and Development, April 2024.
• Of the 25 countries included in the Kearney FDI Confidence Index, a measure of the likelihood of a market attracting investment in the next three years, Canada ranks 2nd overall after the United States. Kearney, April 2024.

The Daily — Foreign direct investment, 2023

Canada's net direct investment position with the rest of the world reached $811.0 billion at the end of 2023, up $86.4 billion from 2022, as growth of Canadian direct investment abroad continued to outpace growth of foreign direct investment in Canada.

www150.statcan.gc.ca

FDI for Canada | Invest in Canada

Learn how Invest in Canada finds the best global companies to invest here and build a prosperous economy for Canadians.

www.investcanada.ca

Key facts about Canada’s competitiveness for foreign direct investment

Novembre 2025 - Key facts about Canada’s competitiveness for foreign direct investment

www.international.gc.ca

Foreign investment in Canada - Santandertrade.com

The context of foreign investment in Canada : Canadian market's assets and inconvenients, foreign direct investments (FDI) Inward Flow, main investing countries and privileged sectors for investing.

santandertrade.com

 

[Baloo]

You have still only addressed your perspective of the problem. For the one talking about "digging" into the data, here is some context:

 

[SeaKingTacco]

For all you Constitution experts here. Is there anyway PP can go to the GG and request that this Parliament be dissolved based on the HoC impasse (Liberals defying the will of Parliament)?

Can't use Polls as a reason though.

Nope. Unless there is a vote of non-confidence, the PM has the confidence of Parliament. An impasse is not a lack of confidence.

 

[suffolkowner]

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…Toronto has more three times more seats than the Island of Montréal, so what?



Technically, it depends on the Sovereign’s decision, as represented by the Governor General:

https://www.ourcommons.ca/

i think its normal for the leader of the party with the most seats in the HofC to be PM but not required. I dont expect it to be tested after this election either unless PP and the CPC get 160 seats instead of 260

 

[Good2Golf]

i think its normal for the leader of the party with the most seats in the HofC to be PM but not required. I dont expect it to be tested after this election either unless PP and the CPC get 160 seats instead of 260

Yes, and there is likely greater detail somewhere than the OurCommons.gc.ca website, but most seats has been the de facto policy. I know of *no case since Confederation where a party with fewer votes was asked by the GG to form government…

 

[suffolkowner]

Yes, and there is likely greater detail somewhere than the OurCommons.gc.ca website, but most seats has been the de facto policy. I know of know case since Confederation where a party with fewer votes was asked by the GG to form government…

I dont think they will be asked The PM is the PM until he steps down. If PP and the CPC get the 160 seats he still has to demonstrate that he has the confidence of the house and that the PM does not. Unless the PM accepts of course. King-Byng is probably the closest we've been to this i think. And its quite possible that the CPC will be closer to 260 than 160 when all is said and done

 

[Kirkhill]

People tend to forget that the Bloc Québecois was founded as a Conservative Party and I believe still draws Conservatives in Québec towards it. A lot of people would classify them as Centre-Left which historically may have been the case due to Labour Union influence over the PQ but I no longer see it that way and believe they, like the CAQ, are firmly right of the political spectrum.

They are pro-decentralization, Anti-Immigration, populist in nature and I view them as a regional right-wing populist party.

Réal Caouette - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dapaterson]

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…Toronto has more three times more seats than the Island of Montréal, so what?

A map of Canada, colour coded, misrepresents votes. Every resident of Nunavut would fit inside the Skydome... Looking only at a map ignores population.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

A map of Canada, colour coded, misrepresents votes. Every resident of Nunavut would fit inside the Skydome... Looking only at a map ignores population.

Well, no crap.

The map is still pretty blue with very, very few patches of red, anywhere.

 

[Good2Golf]

A map of Canada, colour coded, misrepresents votes. Every resident of Nunavut would fit inside the Skydome... Looking only at a map ignores population.

The zoom in to Montreal had red and pink on it. Just as Toronto has red and orange when you zoom in…heck, Jack Layton’s widow is the bloody mayor. Nobody’s thinking that Ontario is 100% all Blue just from looking at the big map…

 

[dapaterson]

The zoom in to Montreal had red and pink on it. Just as Toronto has red and orange when you zoom in…heck, Jack Layton’s widow is the bloody mayor. Nobody’s thinking that Ontario is 100% all Blue just from looking at the big map…

There are a non zero number of people who confuse geography with population. Or who think acres should vote, not people. Just highlighting that a small riding in Edmonton that's solid blue likely has as many votes or more than a sprawling orange riding in northern Ontario.

 

[Good2Golf]

There are a non zero number of people who confuse geography with population. Or who think acres should vote, not people. Just highlighting that a small riding in Edmonton that's solid blue likely has as many votes or more than a sprawling orange riding in northern Ontario.

Your first salvo seemed to compare the geographic size of Montreal island to the extent of the Maritimes and Eastern Quebec…unless I missed the intent of your geographic-heavy references, non?

Remember, the island of Montreal has more voters than all of Canada east of the island of Montreal.

 

[Lumber]

You have still only addressed your perspective of the problem. For the one talking about "digging" into the data, here is some context:

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First off, this is immaterial to the debate at hand I'm having with @CBH99. We were specifically discussing inward FDI, and I was challenging the assertion of others (both on this site and elsewhere) that 1. Trudeau has made a Canada where no one wants to invest, and 2. that what investment is coming is apparently China "buying up land". That is factually untrue in both regards.

But second, to address your apparent (since you didn't actually say anything about this graph) assertion with this graph that net outward FDI is bad; that's also not true, at least not without first digging into the details and determining why there is so much outward FDI. There are a lot of reasons that there could be higher levels of outward FDI. What the pundits would say (that lines up with the above assertions) is that Canada is an inhospitable businesses landscape, so business are sending there money elsewhere, and while that may be true in some cases, 1. this graph doesn't show/prove that, and 2. it's certainly not the majority of the reason for outward FDI. A much larger amount of outward FDI is likely to be highly efficient Canadian companies investing in cheaper materials and labour abroad.

 

[mariomike]

These 287 pages, and 113 more of Liberal Minority Government 2021 - ????,

Make me thankful I follow the local election.

Only have to worry about it once every four years on the fourth Monday in October.

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[Good2Golf]

Only have to worry about it once every four years on the fourth Monday in October.

Unless the fourth Monday falls on Diwali, then who knows?

 

[Halifax Tar]

This is the way I want my PM to talk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1861484803100385459

https://twitter.com/x/status/1861463489178484839

 

[Remius]

Looks like they are walking back the 250$ now.