Halifax Tar
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He definitely seems to have no issues pissing of huge swaths of his population, many many of which probably voted for him.
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He definitely seems to have no issues pissing of huge swaths of his population, many many of which probably voted for him.
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Enh... for the most part. I was merely saying you're not going to see 2 uniform factions squaring off a la 1861, but multiple pockets of resistance at all levels and across the country.
Its going to be far messier than Civil War II...
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Or a failed state like Somalia run by warlords.
I’ve deal with their National LE and Rio’s SWAT. When you need air support, grenades and belt fed machine guns on patrols, I’d say that’s getting pretty sketchy…
Quite likely it would be more along the lines of bushwhacking.
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Halifax Tar
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So Chicago on a Wednesday afternoon?
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For that to happen we need to start instilling in our children, the littles entering kindergarten straight through to the end of high school that this is the best fucking country in the world to live in and for that we need to defend it and keep it as our own and carrying a big fucking stick.Who would ally with us ?
We are geographically located on top on the new global belligerent. We have done SFA to make ourselves a solid military power and on top of that have social and economic issues that need to be mended, probably before we can even thing about buying in defence.
If I am nations like has been mentioned above, Canada should be avoided. We would be an anchor on any alliance.
IMHO we have to do this ourselves and stop expecting someone else to do our international relations and military strategy for us.
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Canada is broken, it's a sad fucking fact. And it's probably going to get worse. Because of our lack of assertiveness in the post WW2 world we have squandered the international, economic and military clout we earned from that horrible conflict. But we can correct this and come out stronger. We have all the resources in the world to make for ourselves a very big stick to walk softly with. Does Canada want to be a strong independent Nation of the world?
This strikes me as a very apt, for the moment, Churchill speech.
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Sadly, I expect the teachers unions, the same ones that openly support Hamas, to give massive push back against this. So good luck.
Czech_pivo
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Detroit on a Friday night says, 'Yo, hold my malt liquor cuz!"
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Is this really where we are now? We want to nuke our neighbours to the South because half of them elected a megalomaniac crackpot?
Yes we have been forced to come to the (what should have been obvious) realization that the countries of this World don't have permanent "friends", just "interests". Yes, we now know that the US isn't guaranteed to be a reliable partner or even particularly friendly neighbour, but just because Trump is willing to trade with despotic, oppressive and expansionist countries in order to (try) to enrich his interests doesn't mean we need to go "ballistic" (both figuratively and literally) in response.
The reason we're all running around like chickens with our heads cut off as a result of his threats of "economic force" and desire to see us as the 51st State is because we've allowed ourselves to become weak and Trump as a bully can see this which allows him to make these threats.
We can't change our geography so like it or not we're stuck with the US as our neighbour. We can however do lots of things to make us "not weak" that don't include ratcheting up the response to "full panic" and playing the nuclear card. If anything, with things heating up around the World with this new Great Power Rivalry we should be doing everything we can to try and lower tensions and bring some sanity to the situation in order to avoid a nuclear confrontation which would end very, very badly for everyone.
No one is saying nuke the US. Even if we had them we wouldn’t be able to.
If the argument is about taking care of our own defense and security absent a reliable US then it merits conversation.
No one is suggesting going ballistic on them. Just go independent of them and their new interests whic seems to be Russia and others. None of which favours us.
Nuclear weapons certainly would make us less weak.
Alignement with Europe and Anglosphere. Realise we might have to be a bit lonelier in North America and ensure we can defend ourselves without the US. We can stay friendly but like any divorce, things won’t be the same and we won’t be family anymore.
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Welcome to Canada. Where for the entire history of this country with one or two moments as an exception.
It has been a article of faith held by politicians of all political stripes. That if people aren't actively shooting at you. It's obviously time to gut the Defence budget.
No. I was just pointing out a massive impracticality to something someone else floated. There might be people thinking Canada should get nukes to assure our own sovereignty. I’m not one.
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You only need a military if there is war. Duh.
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Might be too late. We've had a decade of being told by our elected leaders we are a place with no core identity, with a racist, misogynistic, and atrocity filled history. We have cancelled our national heroes, renamed buildings, tore down statues, and poured countless migrants into the country that do not share our former values. A massive number of our citizens are fully addicted to social spending and handouts, relish perceived victimhood, and disparage entrepreneurship and industry. According to the LPC, only a green post nation future can save us all.
Good luck with that! Go Carney!
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So what is the point of spending the capital (both financial and political) of developing nuclear weapons to "protect" us from the US if:
- We wouldn't actually use them
- If we did use them we'd become a frozen marble
Absolutely take care of our own defence, but developing our own nuclear deterrent doesn't have to be part of that.
Nuclear weapons might make us less weak, but it would also make us a potential threat. Trump has said he wouldn't use military force against Canada and I have serious doubts that the MAGA crowd would actually consider invasion, but you think there is serious pressure on us now just imagine what it would be if we began to develop our own nuclear deterrent (which would obviously be directed against the US).
Building nuclear weapons with the only realistic purpose being to threaten to nuke the US is not the ideal way to "stay friendly".
Again, not saying we shouldn't take very serious action to secure ourselves independent of any US involvement but just saying that this talk about Canada deploying nuclear weapons to protect us from the United States is ridiculous.
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On July 1 1867 Canada became a nation.
The first question might have been:
“Do we really need a military?”
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Nuclear weapons aren’t the answer. They are horrendously expensive and very technical,
We need a leader and right now we are leaderless.
We need a leader and right now we are leaderless.
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Canada should be embracing Trump's America and joining with it to establish an economic and military superpower of North America. This can be done while maintaining sovereignty and re-emerging as a strong, respected, middle power with clout. Ego, stupidity, and foreign adversarial influence are getting in the way of that.
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Which is ironic since the whole point of Confederation was mutual defence against a vengeful Union.
That's kind of our problem right there. We keep expecting the government services to leap to some task that needs doing.
Tell them yourselves. Starting today. Tell your family this is or could be the best damn country on the planet. Tell your friends. Tell your kids and grandkids how good we have it by sticking together and working at it all the time. If you don't have kids then get out there and mentor or coach. Pester your mps, engage with the people around you.
Or we can keep sitting around whining how things should be while the ice dilutes our drinks.