Trump administration 2024-2028

[Jarnhamar]

Except the Russians have been grabbing troops of questionable quality and throwing them at the frontline. Ukraine is scooping men off the streets to throw them at the front. Both sides of that war are not looking for the most fit, most capable men to man their fronts. They are looking for men, period.

They've worn themselves down to a war of attrition. If they're throwing prisoners onto the front lines then they don't care who they get.

That's silly for us to emulate that.

https://www.war.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4318689/secretary-of-war-pete-hegseth-addresses-general-and-flag-officers-at-quantico-v/

I read the whole speech and I don't see anywhere buddy says they're going to focus solely on fitness. That implies all other training falls away.

He does say they will do PT every day, which is awesome , and:

So, whether you're an airborne Ranger or a chairborne Ranger, a brand new private or a four star general, you need to meet the height and weight standards and pass your PT test.

That sounds great. What part of meeting the standard don't you like?

I see fat soldiers, I see thin soldiers, I see soldiers who look like they are pushing 60, I see soldiers who look like they just got out of high school. Drones blow them up all the same.

Mind sharing a video or two of these obese soldiers in trenches?

You also see troops in the open assaulting a position just accepting their fate because, one, it's the steppes, and two, the drone will follow them to kill them. And if they dodge one...there is another. And another. Fitness, its great, but it's not the end all of combat arms soldiers. Numbers are.

So a fit soldier will dodge 3 or 4 drones and an unfair soldier will see one and accept their fate. That's making an argument for fit soldiers to me.

It seems like your idea of being fit is JTF2 levels of endurance.

 

[Altair]

They've worn themselves down to a war of attrition. If they're throwing prisoners onto the front lines then they don't care who they get.

That's silly for us to emulate that.

Emulate the Russians? I agree. But even the Ukrainians are grabbing people off the streets.

I read the whole speech and I don't see anywhere buddy says they're going to focus solely on fitness. That implies all other training falls away.

He does say they will do PT every day, which is awesome , and:

PT every day, great. I do love it, assuming people aren't needing to work late or harder to make up for PT+shower time.

Don't meet fitness and you're out? Bad. Simply bad policy.

That sounds great. What part of meeting the standard don't you like?

If the standard becomes a limiting factor for recruitment or replacing losses then it's a dumb policy.

Mind sharing a video or two of these obese soldiers in trenches?

I cannot share NSFW videos here, thanks.

So a fit soldier will dodge 3 or 4 drones and an unfair soldier will see one and accept their fate. That's making an argument for fit soldiers to me.

I see fit soldiers doing the same. There is little cover in the steppes. Being fit doesn't make one superman.

It seems like your idea of being fit is JTF2 levels of endurance.

By saying people will be kicked out, while looking towards a war of potential attrition, I'm going to call it a stupid policy.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Emulate the Russians? I agree. But even the Ukrainians are grabbing people off the streets.

Yeah it's very dystopian. Real Death Korps of Krieg stuff.

PT every day, great. I do love it, assuming people aren't needing to work late or harder to make up for PT+shower time.

That's a fair point. It's poor quality of life stuff to make someonenstay later because of poor time management.

If someone let themselves get wildly out of shape then they can also do PT twice a day. Or if they don't like that then find a job where they can eat McDonald's all day.

Don't meet fitness and you're out? Bad. Simply bad policy.

My friends husband wa kicked out for failing some kind of weight ir waist standard. It wasn't over night, he had a lot of chances. I've seen Canadian soldiers dodge the force test for 5+ years. They weren't "contributing " to the CAF in a meaningful way.

I cannot share NSFW videos here, thanks.

Can you PM me the examples please.

I see fit soldiers doing the same. There is little cover in the steppes. Being fit doesn't make one superman.

Being unfit in the military is like playing a video game on hard mode.

By saying people will be kicked out, while looking towards a war of potential attrition, I'm going to call it a stupid policy.

And they will potentially attached Americans who want to be challanged, be proud of their service, and not associated with Rufus here.

 

[Altair]

Yeah it's very dystopian. Real Death Korps of Krieg stuff.

Just the reality of war.

That's a fair point. It's poor quality of life stuff to make someonenstay later because of poor time management.

I agree

If someone let themselves get wildly out of shape then they can also do PT twice a day. Or if they don't like that then find a job where they can eat McDonald's all day.

Again, when all the fit soldiers are dead, what happens?

My friends husband wa kicked out for failing some kind of weight ir waist standard. It wasn't over night, he had a lot of chances. I've seen Canadian soldiers dodge the force test for 5+ years. They weren't "contributing " to the CAF in a meaningful way.

Yet drone operators just need two working hands.

Can you PM me the examples please.

You asked for it, try not to get me banned, ya?

Being unfit in the military is like playing a video game on hard mode.

It certainly is.

And they will potentially attached Americans who want to be challanged, be proud of their service, and not associated with Rufus here.

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Notice I've narrowed my scope to their fitness regs.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Canadian steel maker appears to be about to invoke force majeure in dealing with a US supplier.

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That was going to happen with the accelerated adopting of their EAFs and shutdown of their blast furnace due to America’s tariffs. I suspect the game plan is to just see how much they don’t have to pay.