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Trump administration 2024-2028

How does someone with multiple years in politics, including the past four years as VP, fail to meet the grade for the highest office?

She was/is a failure as a VP and would make for a dangerous President. The US and in turn the world, avoided a major catastrophe if Harris/Waltz were to be elected.
Not losing my mind

Harris was shifting too dangerously to the left, much like Trudeau has. They were becoming radicals, I didn’t label you specifically as one of those. You don’t vote in US elections. The ideal political party is somewhere between the traditional, pre-Biden/Harris, Democrats and Trump. Americans are stuck in a two party system so you choose the lesser of two evils, at the time.
 
She was/is a failure as a VP and would make for a dangerous President. The US and in turn the world, avoided a major catastrophe if Harris/Waltz were to be elected.
Again.... substantiate your claim. You're giving your opinion; which has been confident and smug since well before Election Day, however, what concrete examples can you provide me of her failure as Vice President? Show your work, besides "DEI Hire woman bad"

Harris was shifting too dangerously to the left, much like Trudeau has. They were becoming radicals,
Short from humming "L'Internationale" and seizing the means of production, I have no idea what you mean by becoming radical leftists. Did they threaten to suspend the market economy? Are they interning intellectuals, political dissedents, religious minorities, or purging their opponents in a bloody pogrom?

Giving social causes you don't directly benefit from a voice is not oppression. Freedom isn't pie; its not a finite resource that gets taken away from you when others get a larger piece of it.

I didn’t label you specifically as one of those. You don’t vote in US elections.
And neither do you, so mind your giddiness. Its not becoming of a man to take pride in something he had no impact in.

The ideal political party is somewhere between the traditional, pre-Biden/Harris, Democrats and Trump. Americans are stuck in a two party system so you choose the lesser of two evils, at the time.
Given the choice between an underperforming Democratic Party and a GOP quite literally using policies and platforms that fit the academic definition of fascism, I don't think for a second the "lesser of two evils" was selected here.

Not my circus or my monkeys, but those monkeys are starting to stress me out a bit.
 
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Again.... sunstantiate your claim. You're giving your opinion; which has been confident and smug since well before Election Day, however, what concrete examples can you provide me of her failure as Vice President? Show your work, besides "DEI Hire woman bad"

Plenty of examples here: US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

I don't think for a second the "lesser of two evils" was selected here.

Nothing I can say will change your mind regardless.
 
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Insight on why Silicon Valley swung Trump can be found on a recent Joe Rogan pdcast.


If even a part of this is true… I think as long as Trump doesnt get clipped the next four years will be spent rooting out the rot.
 
The popular vote was split, it wasnt a landslide

BZ Trump for becoming the second Republican to win the Popular Vote in the nine elections since 1988.

It was not a "landslide". His percentage of the Popular Vote is less than half.
 
For anyone thinking our border is the problem.

They seized 23 thousand pounds of fentanyl at the Mexican border this year.

The Canadian border? 43 pounds.
Hell, the complaint from the CAN / US border should be from the Canadian side, with the guns and people going north, not south.
 
For anyone thinking our border is the problem.

They seized 23 thousand pounds of fentanyl at the Mexican border this year.

The Canadian border? 43 pounds.
The Canada/US border is a problem because Trump says it is. He has the means to make it a problem for Canada.

And, yes, illegal guns, drugs and, to a lesser extent, people coming north is a bigger concern to us that to them.

What a lot of folks are missing is that controlling what goes into the US is a them problem that falls in the lap of Homeland Security through USCBP and the Border Patrol. However, we have a role to play in controlling who and what comes into Canada with the intent of illegally making it's/their way into the US. We can do that through export controls on goods we know are not allowed to be exported from Canada or admissible to the US. Determining if a person is admissible is up to the US authorities as persons are not regulated by tariffs or treaties like goods are. But our main focus is and always should be on domestic security, not US security.

However, our domestic economic security is now being threatened politically so we have to take this more seriously than we have in the past.
 
The Canada/US border is a problem because Trump says it is. He has the means to make it a problem for Canada.

And, yes, illegal guns, drugs and, to a lesser extent, people coming north is a bigger concern to us that to them.

What a lot of folks are missing is that controlling what goes into the US is a them problem that falls in the lap of Homeland Security through USCBP and the Border Patrol. However, we have a role to play in controlling who and what comes into Canada with the intent of illegally making it's/their way into the US. But our main focus is and always should be on domestic security, not US security. However, our domestic economic security is now being threatened politically so we have to take this more seriously than we have in the past.

Thought -

Suppose Trump is treating Canada like Mexico because Trudeau apparently cosied up to the new President of Mexico after trying to cosy up to Trump?

Trump has issues with Canada, and some are valid. He also has issues with Mexico, and again, some are valid. But his issues with Canada and Mexico are not the same.

Canada does have a Border problem with the US but the scale and nature of the problem is vastly different than the problem the US has with Mexico.

Suppose that this is as much about, at least in part, Trump suggesting to Trudeau that if Trudeau wants to ally with Mexico then he can expect to be treated like Mexico?

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Trump has discussed a flat tariff of 10% on all goods coming into the US regardless of relations. Suppose we take that as his baseline (subject to negotiation).

He then announces a 15% surcharge on trade with Canada and Mexico. In Donald's world there is nothing that can't be cured with more money.

In Canada's case that 15% corresponds to about 3% of GDP. As noted he has been after us for an additional 1% of GDP for Defence - and that was before war broke out. Now he is looking for 2% or more. 2% on Defence and 1% on Border Security and Immigration Control would probably suit him just fine - and make our NATO allies happy as well.

In Mexico's case what would that 15% cover? The cost of building and maintaining the wall perhaps? The cost of returning people that are not welcome?

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The 25% Tariff is a 2x4. To be taken both seriously and literally.

A message to Canada and Mexico and everybody else. Donald has set out his stall and is open for business, on his terms. This is as much a message to the Chinese and the Germans as it is to us.
 
Thought -

Suppose Trump is treating Canada like Mexico because Trudeau apparently cosied up to the new President of Mexico after trying to cosy up to Trump?
WAG- Trump is threatening to treat Canada like Mexico to force Canada to treat Mexico like he wants to treat Mexico. Sub China in for Mexico as needed.

He wants Fortress America, but due to the mutual dependence and integration of our economies
A- cutting us out/ treating us like the enemy hurts American interests
B- us not following suit allows end runs to his policies

Solution- Bully us into following suit to create Fortress North America,
 
WAG- Trump is threatening to treat Canada like Mexico to force Canada to treat Mexico like he wants to treat Mexico. Sub China in for Mexico as needed.

He wants Fortress America, but due to the mutual dependence and integration of our economies
A- cutting us out/ treating us like the enemy hurts American interests
B- us not following suit allows end runs to his policies

Solution- Bully us into following suit to create Fortress North America,

Most Favoured Nation --- what does that mean?

In Trump's world that could mean being exempt from the "standard" 10% fee. Less Favoured Nations will pay the fee plus any surcharges.

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I am extrapolating from multiple experiences with OEMs, MSRPs and Discounts. (Original Equipment Manufacturers, Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices and Discounts awarded on the basis of how valuable the Client is - how much business it pulls in).
 
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Two days after President-elect Donald Trump threatened to impose sweeping new tariffs on Canada and Mexico as part of his effort to crack down on illegal immigration and drugs, he said he spoke with the Mexican president and she “agreed to stop Migration through Mexico.”

In a post on his Truth Social account Wednesday evening, Trump said this was “effectively closing our Southern Border.” He called it a “very productive conversation!”

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum confirmed that she spoke with Trump, calling it an “excellent conversation.”

“We discussed Mexico’s strategy on migration issues, and I told him the caravans are not reaching the northern (U.S.) border, because Mexico is taking care of them,” Sheinbaum wrote on social media. “We also talked about reinforcing cooperation on security issues, within the framework of our sovereignty, and the campaign we are carrying out to prevent fentanyl consumption.”


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See? That wasn't so hard, now was it?
 
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