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Trump administration 2024-2028

Lots of people threatened to leave after Obama and Trump 1.0, including a lot of celebrities. Few really did. And some who did returned after a few years.
 
mariomike said:
Gallup simply asked,

"Ideally " "if you had the opportunity" "would you like" "would you prefer"
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"If you had the opportunity".

Other than people incarcerated, not many are being forced to stay.

Most of those seem to be interpreted as "if it cost you nothing and were really, really easy and you could get an awesome job and didn't have to leave friends and family behind etc. etc."
 
Brad Sallows said:
Most people could resolve their emotional issues without leaving the country simply by moving to another state.
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% Would like to move permanently to another country?
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If 40% of younger women answered "yes" to the above question, an interesting follow up question to younger women might be,

% Would like to move permanently to another state?
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mariomike said:
If 40% of younger women answered "yes" to the above question, an interesting follow up question to younger women might be,
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What would be the point? These kinds of surveys are useless information. Empirically, very, very few people follow through. These surveys are just approval surveys obfuscating the issue instead of directly asking "How satisfied are you?"
 
Brad Sallows said:
These surveys are just approval surveys obfuscating the issue instead of directly asking "How satisfied are you?"
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The sharp rise in younger women wanting to leave the U.S. has created a large gender gap between them and their male counterparts.
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Perhaps the question should be "why?"
 
mariomike said:
The question was not about vacation habits.



( Caps are Gallup’s, not mine. )
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No but a willingness to go elsewhere is the start to being willing to move elsewhere. If your content where you are why would you leave?
 
mariomike said:
Perhaps the question should be "why?"
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I've lived in 5 countries.
1) Born in Canada

2) Lived in Belgium/Holland for my MA - where I had to get a student visa (out of my pocket), which allowed me limited employment options as a student, get a police background check (out of my pocket), get check out by a doctor for various medical tests (TB anyone?) and write an essay before I was given my Visa.

3) Took a FT job in the Czech Republic from when my studies wrapped up in Belgium- where my employer took care of my work visa, which was a 1yr renewable visa that I renewed twice.
- I would like to point out that in the cases of Belgium/Holland/Czech Republic that I had NEVER visited any of those places prior to my decision to move there. I lived in the Flemish speaking area in Belgium so my grade 10 French didn't do me much good and in the Czech Republic my grade 4 level Polish (thanks Mom) helped me minimally.​

4) Took a FT job in Michigan - which thanks to my US citizenship through my Mom being American, I had no issues leaving working FT in the Czech Republic to fly to Michigan and start work immediately.

5) Came back to Canada

Our plan when we hopefully retire in 6ish years is to move to Europe (France/Spain/Portugal possibly), initially part time but potentially full time if we decide to.

You have only 1 life, with an uncertain, unknown timeline, I've been lucky enough to know that there are many places in the world where I can find happiness and peace.
 
Czech_pivo said:
I've lived in 5 countries.
1) Born in Canada

2) Lived in Belgium/Holland for my MA - where I had to get a student visa (out of my pocket), which allowed me limited employment options as a student, get a police background check (out of my pocket), get check out by a doctor for various medical tests (TB anyone?) and write an essay before I was given my Visa.

3) Took a FT job in the Czech Republic from when my studies wrapped up in Belgium- where my employer took care of my work visa, which was a 1yr renewable visa that I renewed twice.
- I would like to point out that in the cases of Belgium/Holland/Czech Republic that I had NEVER visited any of those places prior to my decision to move there. I lived in the Flemish speaking area in Belgium so my grade 10 French didn't do me much good and in the Czech Republic my grade 4 level Polish (thanks Mom) helped me minimally.​

4) Took a FT job in Michigan - which thanks to my US citizenship through my Mom being American, I had no issues leaving working FT in the Czech Republic to fly to Michigan and start work immediately.

5) Came back to Canada

Our plan when we hopefully retire in 6ish years is to move to Europe (France/Spain/Portugal possibly), initially part time but potentially full time if we decide to.

You have only 1 life, with an uncertain, unknown timeline, I've been lucky enough to know that there are many places in the world where I can find happiness and peace.
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Thank you for sharing your experience.

Perhaps you can offer some insight to this Gallup observation,

The sharp rise in younger women wanting to leave the U.S. has created a large gender gap between them and their male counterparts.
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mariomike said:
The Gallup poll had only two age categories.

Women and men 44 and "younger" , and 45 and "older" - for both genders.
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Actually, the first bracket was 15 to 44. The word “younger” was not used in any bracket description, and I don’t know that a group that includes 40+ year olds is accurately described as “younger “.
 
McG said:
Actually, the first bracket was 15 to 44. The word “younger” was not used in any bracket description, and I don’t know that a group that includes 40+ year olds is accurately described as “younger “.
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Actually, the word "younger" is used throughout the Gallup article.
news.gallup.com

Record Numbers of Younger Women Want to Leave the U.S.

The percentage of younger women in the U.S. who express a desire to migrate permanently has surged in the past decade.
news.gallup.com news.gallup.com
 
mariomike said:
The desire to leave America seems to be stronger in younger women than men, for some reason(s).
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I wonder what percentage of those women think they would move to a foreign country, become a content creator or blogger, and live some kind of luxury life and marry a 6'2 gentlemen with 6-pack abs and 7 figures.
 
Jarnhamar said:
I wonder what percentage of those women think they would move to a foreign country, become a content creator or blogger, and live some kind of luxury life and marry a 6'2 gentlemen with 6-pack abs and 7 figures.
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I suspect a very small minority of them. It might have something to do with the fact that today they have less rights than their mothers did and the political environment is more polarized than ever. Plus being able to see America really isn’t the greatest for a lot of things anymore.

America usually ranks around 20 on quality of life indexes. That means 19 other countries average better lifestyles.

The American dream is dying. And when you look elsewhere in the world, that dream isn’t as great today as it was 70 years ago.
 
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