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Trump administration 2024-2028

Apply that same logic to anything and everything that comes out of Trump's mouth. Does that work for you?
Why would or should I do that?

If the criticism about Trump isn't that he's beyond normal parameters, then what's the beef? If he's beyond normal parameters, it's ludicrous to use him as the yardstick for measuring everyone else.
 
Why would or should I do that?

If the criticism about Trump isn't that he's beyond normal parameters, then what's the beef? If he's beyond normal parameters, it's ludicrous to use him as the yardstick for measuring everyone else.
If you say so.
 
If you say so.
Of course I do. I haven't been taking Trump seriously since 2016.

Here we are, in a world in which people are on the one hand saying "Trump is crazy and contradicts himself all the time and frequently fails to follow through", and on the other working themselves into high states of anxiety over particular pronouncements - no matter how many times their prior high states of anxiety turned out to be unnecessary.
 
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Canada's not grateful. Denmark's not grateful. Europe's not grateful. What an awful, uncaring world he occupies.

Actions and words.

From Kirkhill in the 2% thread

The North Atlantic Treaty

The Parties to this Treaty reaffirm their faith in the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments. They are determined to safeguard the freedom, common heritage and civilisation of their peoples, founded on...
www.nato.int
www.nato.int

In order more effectively to achieve the objectives of this Treaty, the Parties, separately and jointly, by means of continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid, will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.

Self-help
Individual capacity to resist armed attack

Continuous
Effective
Maintain
Develop

Other NATO partners have not lived up to their agreements - actions.

Other NATO partners disparage the US while the US carries the burden - words.

This can be interpreted as ungrateful.

By my guess, even though they don't carry the heavy burden other NATO countries might get more leniency if they at least carried the water for the US. They do neither well.
 
Actions and words.

From Kirkhill in the 2% thread


Other NATO partners have not lived up to their agreements - actions.
Article 5 only invoked by one nation. NATO partners stepped up
Other NATO partners disparage the US while the US carries the burden - words.
They carried that burden for their own self interests.
This can be interpreted as ungrateful.
The US is full of shit on the that.
By my guess, even though they don't carry the heavy burden other NATO countries might get more leniency if they at least carried the water for the US. They do neither well.
After the US revealed itself for what it is why would they.
 
Article 5 only invoked by one nation. NATO partners stepped up

They carried that burden for their own self interests.

The US is full of shit on the that.

After the US revealed itself for what it is why would they.

Sure.

I'm making a suggestion how the US might see it.

It should be revealing that some of this might be accurate with NATO scrambling to increase defence capability only at the behest of an annoyed and increasingly punitive US. Status quo is no longer optional.

... I guess a potential response from you will be: NATO is increasing defence because the US has become unreliable. That is really just avoiding accountability for deferring the original responsibility.
 
Sure.

I'm making a suggestion how the US might see it.

It should be revealing that some of this might be accurate with NATO scrambling to increase defence capability only at the behest of an annoyed and increasingly punitive US. Status quo is no longer optional.

... I guess a potential response from you will be: NATO is increasing defence because the US has become unreliable. That is really just avoiding accountability for deferring the original responsibility.
Imagine you were having a cottage weekend with a large group of your friends, and everyone agreed to bring alcohol of different types that would be shareed amongst everyone. Everyone brings a bottle of booze or a case of beer each, but one of your friends is rich, and he says he'll bring a keg because it's no big expense for him. After a few years of this, the rich guy, who's gotten even richer, starts bringing more than just a keg; he starts bringing a selection of high priced whiskeys and tequilas, spirits of every variety, craft beer sampler packs, cases of wine, and yes, still the keg. He always insists on everyone drinking what he brings (he's proud of it and genuinely just wants you to enjoy what he's bringing) and so people eventually stop bringing their own booze unless there's some really niche drink that they know he probably won't bring.

That's NATO and the US over the past 75 years.

Except now the rich dude suddenly, out of nowhere, looks around and goes "You fucking mooches, why don't you bring your own share!".

Dafuq?
 
Imagine you were having a cottage weekend with a large group of your friends, and everyone agreed to bring alcohol of different types that would be shareed amongst everyone. Everyone brings a bottle of booze or a case of beer each, but one of your friends is rich, and he says he'll bring a keg because it's no big expense for him. After a few years of this, the rich guy, who's gotten even richer, starts bringing more than just a keg; he starts bringing a selection of high priced whiskeys and tequilas, spirits of every variety, craft beer sampler packs, cases of wine, and yes, still the keg. He always insists on everyone drinking what he brings (he's proud of it and genuinely just wants you to enjoy what he's bringing) and so people eventually stop bringing their own booze unless there's some really niche drink that they know he probably won't bring.

That's NATO and the US over the past 75 years.

Except now the rich dude suddenly, out of nowhere, looks around and goes "You fucking mooches, why don't you bring your own share!".

Dafuq?
That is a terrible analogy. A couple things are missing; the rich guy's finance folks telling him if he keeps doing that he'll go broke and the other guests drinking his booze are constantly bad mouthing him.
 
That is a terrible analogy. A couple things are missing; the rich guy's finance folks telling him if he keeps doing that he'll go broke and the other guests drinking his booze are constantly bad mouthing him.
Rich guy, after hearing he will go broke...spends even more because he's old and senile and makes zero sense.

 
almost as if the arrows are starting to point to a foreign hand in AB separatists
Norman Spector wrote the same thing. The US will be doing what they can to stimulate separatist movements in Quebec or Alberta. He (Spector) also says Carney is desperate for a snap election on this very issue. He opines Trump will recognize immediately a universal declaration of independence by either province with or without a referendum, offer military and economic assistance etc.
 
Norman Spector wrote the same thing. The US will be doing what they can to stimulate separatist movements in Quebec or Alberta. He (Spector) also says Carney is desperate for a snap election on this very issue. He opines Trump will recognize immediately a universal declaration of independence by either province with or without a referendum, offer military and economic assistance etc.
Carney wants a snap election? There is nothing to indicate that
 
Norman Spector wrote the same thing. The US will be doing what they can to stimulate separatist movements in Quebec or Alberta. He (Spector) also says Carney is desperate for a snap election on this very issue. He opines Trump will recognize immediately a universal declaration of independence by either province with or without a referendum, offer military and economic assistance etc.

Where is he writing? Haven’t heard from him in a while.
 
Carney wants a snap election? There is nothing to indicate that
Carney will want a snap election when it seems likely to give him a decisive majority, and when he can frame it as necessary to allow him to more effectively advance his economic and policy objectives. That’s the conventional calculus on such things and there’s no reason to think it’ll be any different under the Carney ministry.
 
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