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Trump administration 2024-2028

The Venn diagram of the 2A true believers and those who want to return to the 3/5 compromise is almost a perfect overlap.
You’d be 110% wrong there.
Most hard corps 2A folks aren’t white nor wanting to join any sort of paramilitary militia.

The wannabe Internet tough guy 2A mouth breather, sure - but they aren’t actually training, other than wearing mismatched camo and beer drinking.
 
We’re already seeing at least one U.S. citizen arbitrarily detained by ICE and held in custody for ten days on purported ‘immigration’ grounds before release- are citizens to carry their papers now, to be surrendered for inspection on demand by curious government agents?
There is some confusion on whether this was ICE or CBP, but events on a domestic Amtrak train:


Desensitization; on the path to normalization.

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me And there was no one left to speak out for me.
 
I’m gonna segue off something here; I recognize this wasn’t the main thrust of your reply, but it’s critically important.

Due process stops being due process if it’s very existence and application becomes conditional. Different processes are built to address different sets of facts. Due process for a criminal conviction is distinct from due process for deportation on the grounds of misrepresentation, and both of those are distinct from due process for an administrative challenge to loss of a federal job or security clearance. The point is that, whatever due process exists for a particular set of circumstances, that due process must be afforded. It’s the existence and application of due process itself that is the vital ground. Once the administration starts to get away with circumventing or outright ignoring due process in one sphere, it becomes easier in others. Mere days after the first batch of people were shipped to El Salvador under a farcical application of the Alien Enemies Act, we have the White House secretary admitting they’re looking at the legality of doing citizens too.

The fight for due process matters because even if you aren’t vulnerable today, you could be vulnerable in a month or a year. We’re already seeing pretextual police stops of Latinos who are born and raised US citizens. We’re already seeing at least one U.S. citizen arbitrarily detained by ICE and held in custody for ten days on purported ‘immigration’ grounds before release- are citizens to carry their papers now, to be surrendered for inspection on demand by curious government agents? Lawful residents on student visas are having their visas revoked and are being kicked out of the country for minor dissents against the current administration which are completely covered by the first amendment.

Stripping due process is contingent upon people accepting the abuse in the case of unsympathetic edge cases. It starts with the easiest, least sympathetic ‘other’, and quickly grows into more people being falsely lumped within that category. Once it becomes normalized at that level, then there’s a next step.

A state that holds due process in contempt is a state that will arbitrarily to anything from throwing a dissident in jail for no crime to illegally firing a federal reserve chairman based on a policy disagreement. Due process is simply the mechanics that have evolved to administer the overlapping and conflicting powers of the three coequal branches of government. Once the executive makes it normal to usurp that you have an autocracy.

To put it most bluntly: in a country that abandons due process, people like you lose most of your protections against people like me. Once that protection is gone, and ‘people like me’ has had a couple years to have the chain of command filtered by the executive for political purity, how does that play out if you’re at all vocal against the regime?

So yeah, due process for some guy who snuck into the country and might have abused his wife matters. When the camel starts to stick its nose under the tent flap sometime you have to kick it in the snout. This much effort is being expended for - at the moment - one person, because at this level it can still be fought and won hopefully without violence.

Leave it to a German to state it best:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

-
Pastor Martin Niemoller
 
Among his many other failings, Trump must be the most profoundly stupid president in United States history.

Not so sure of that after watching Biden's sad performance at the 2024 United States presidential debate.
 
What a bullshit cop out. Your implying that the Biden administration actively did something "against the law" that resulted in an increase level of illegal immigration during his tenure, and therefore the Trump administration is vindicated in their disregard for due process in solving the illegal immigration issue.
Executive orders and policy direction (such as choosing how resources are deployed and how discretion should be exercised) are perfectly legitimate. Perceptions of how easy it will be to illegally enter and remain in the US shape migration. Those perceptions are affected by more factors than black-letter law.
"Two wrongs make a right", is basically your claim.
One wrong begets another. To explain how things evolve is not to excuse them.

My comments are not (usually) moral judgements. My theme is that people cannot behave badly for political expediency and expect others to not behave badly for political expediency. Those whose theme is that people should not behave badly best serve their positions by being equally vocal forceful consistent critics of all bad behaviour. People ought to stop pretending that one fault can be passed when it suits and another brought up short when it doesn't.

Ordinary people want things they think are problems to be fixed. They expect most laws to be adequately and consistently enforced. The more effort that goes into closing doors in their faces, the more frustrated they will become. The more frustrated they become, the more illiberalism they will tolerate. It is not the case that all prior administrations are shining examples of lawful ethical moral behaviour. This situation cannot be unfucked by pretending only one group of people is answerable for how things got this way, or that there is some acceptable level of dirty play.
 
Hmmm....it's almost like the markets don't like uncertaintly...

from CNN:

Dow tumbles more than 1,000 points and dollar hits three-year low as Trump continues to bash Fed Chair Powell

New YorkCNN —
US stocks and the dollar tumbled Monday as investors assessed continued tariff uncertainty and the implications of President Donald Trump’s ongoing mission to try and oust Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.

The Dow fell more than 1,190 points, or 3%. The broader S&P 500 fell 3.2%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite slid 3.46%. Stock futures had slumped in premarket trading after the three major indexes closed last week in the red.

The US dollar index, which measures the dollar’s strength against six foreign currencies, slumped 1% to its lowest level in more than three years.
Wall Street has been on edge since Trump on Thursday lashed out at Powell and said on social media that his “termination cannot come fast enough!”

Trump lambasted Powell for not cutting interest rates — a complaint he has levied multiple times against the Fed chair. The diatribe came as the European Central Bank cut its benchmark interest rate and after Powell spoke last week of the potential economic consequences of Trump’s tariff agenda.

“If I want him out, he’ll be out of there real fast, believe me,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office Thursday. “I’m not happy with him.”
Trump on Monday continued his tirade against Powell, calling him a “major loser” in a social media post pressuring the central bank leader to lower interest rates.

Director of the National Economic Council Kevin Hassett on Friday told reporters that the Trump administration “will continue to study” the possibility of removing Powell. Hassett said he wants to look into “new legal analysis” before determining whether Trump can or should terminate Powell — a break from his previous comments stressing the Fed’s independence.

While many experts say the president does not in fact have the power to fire the Fed chief due to policy differences, Trump has made clear he’s willing to break with norms and precedent, even in the face of potentially monumental repercussions.

Powell on Wednesday said at an event in Chicago said Trump’s tariffs were unlike anything in modern history, with the potential to stoke inflation and drag on economic growth. The stark warning highlights that tariffs could complicate the Fed’s rate-cutting path.

Trump, who appointed Powell during his first term, has long bickered with the Fed chair over interest rates. The Fed’s independence from politics is a hallmark of the central bank, and analysts overwhelmingly expect markets to react negatively to an attempt to fire Powell. Trump’s attack on the Fed’s independence has also raised concerns that investors might lose confidence in the stability of US markets.

“President Trump’s renewed criticism of Fed Chair Powell this week is a reminder that trade policy is not the only channel through which the administration’s unconventional approach could undermine the dollar and US asset markets,” said Jonas Goltermann, senior markets economist at Capital Economics, in a Thursday note.

Dollar under pressure as confidence wavers​

When stocks slump, investors usually seek out safe havens like US government bonds and the dollar. Yet investors are selling the dollar while other safe havens, like gold, are soaring. The dollar has broadly weakened this year in a potential sign of waning confidence in the US.

Krishna Guha, vice chairman at Evercore ISI, said in a Friday note that “recent market action shows a loss of confidence in Trump economic policy,” citing higher Treasury yields and a weaker dollar.

Analysts at Macquarie said in a Monday note that “flight from the USD” stems from “concerns over the Fed’s independence” and a lack of trade deal announcements, signaling that negotiations over tariffs might last many months.

The yield on the 10-year Treasury rose to 4.365% on Monday, up from Thursday. US trading was closed Friday in observance of Good Friday.

The Fed’s board of governors is scheduled to meet the first week of May to determine its next decision on its benchmark interest rate. About 88% of traders expect the Fed to hold rates steady, according to the CME FedWatch tool.
“Powell reiterated that the Fed is likely to remain in wait-and-see mode as it assesses the effect of tariffs on the economy,” analysts at Morgan Stanley said in a Monday note.

Gold on Monday surged more than 3% and hit a fresh record high above $3,400 a troy ounce. The yellow metal has been on a tear this year as investors flock to safe havens. Gold is up more than 27% this year, outpacing its gain across 2024.

Wall Street this week will also digest a slate of first-quarter earnings results. Investors will likely be attuned to chief executives’ guidance and forecasts for the year amid heightened tariff uncertainty.

Tesla (TSLA) is scheduled to report earnings after the bell on Tuesday. Alphabet (GOOGL) is expected to report earnings on Thursday.

“Tariffs will remain top of mind over the coming few months, yet investors are likely to refocus their short-term attention on the Q1 2025 earnings reporting period,” said Sam Stovall, chief investment strategist at CFRA Research, in a Monday note.
 
America has chosen to discard its hegemony, and China is laughing at them, because global affairs, like nature, abhors a vacuum.

Maybe I should start carrying RMB when I travel internationally? It’s only a matter of time before the USD falls from grace.
 
Yes

The whole try and try again aspect

Oh, the attacks on law firms. Yeah, that’s an entirely separate and also hugely concerning matter. The attacks on due process and the attacks on the legal profession are two separate fronts in the larger war on the rule of law as a constraint on executive power.
 
You’d be 110% wrong there.
Most hard corps 2A folks aren’t white nor wanting to join any sort of paramilitary militia.

The wannabe Internet tough guy 2A mouth breather, sure - but they aren’t actually training, other than wearing mismatched camo and beer drinking.
Seems that pollsters and what is before our eyes disagree with that Kevin. I think it's a pretty settled score that most 2A advocates are as white as the jersey I'm wearing to the Jets game tonight.
 
MTG keeping it classy after the passing of Pope Francis.

I guess she doesn't mind alienating the roughly 53 million Catholics in the US.

Trump says he want to make the US more religious. Maybe just not that religion. Maybe he can get Vance to declare, like Greenland, that the Vatican has run the Church very poorly and demand a US Cardinal be appointed, or else we'll . . .
 
I guess she doesn't mind alienating the roughly 53 million Catholics in the US.

Trump says he want to make the US more religious. Maybe just not that religion. Maybe he can get Vance to declare, like Greenland, that the Vatican has run the Church very poorly and demand a US Cardinal be appointed, or else we'll . . .
There have always been people like MTG, Trump, Boebert, Gates et al. What we haven’t seen until relatively recently is such a vast number of Americans who look up to people like them and seem to hang on every word they utter. I’m wondering if those Americans who enable them fit any of the standard criteria and definition for being cult members.
 
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