Trump administration 2024-2028

[Remius]

The goal is more varied trading, not just with China, but a consistent trading partner that actually adheres to international agreements is definitely better than when some geriatric toddler can have a temper tantrum and try and wipe out people's lives.

Every single country will try and maximize their benefits of any trade agreement, so not sure why anyone thinks China would be different. They have enough production to flood anyone's market, but nothing wrong with limited free trade (just like what we do with every other country on the planet outside of US and Mexico)

Diversification and less reliance on an ever growing unreliable source not interested in mutual benefits.

 

[QV]

Hilarious that one side thinks other countries will be more reliable etc than the US has been. As if these other countries don't have their own interests primarily in mind along with a host of other factors (across oceans, less stable borders/governments, etc).

Has Canada done anything significant about interprovincial trade barriers yet?

 

[QV]

Diversification and less reliance on an ever growing unreliable source not interested in mutual benefits.

My position is we don't reduce trade with the US. But we increase trade where we can. For example with O&G, we send as much to the US as they'll take, AND we find export markets off our coast. I'm of the same mindset for all our trade. But this boycott USA thing is the absolute wrong approach.

 

[Remius]

Hilarious that one side thinks other countries will be more reliable etc than the US has been. As if these other countries don't have their own interests primarily in mind along with a host of other factors (across oceans, less stable borders/governments, etc).

Trump just ended trade talks over an Ad. Europe isn’t causing grief by violating CETA.

The fact is we’ve been too reliant on the US and Trump is exploiting that fact.

Has Canada done anything significant about interprovincial trade barriers yet?

Yes. But more needs to be done for sure.

 

[Remius]

My position is we don't reduce trade with the US.

That isn’t a choice . They are the ones doing that. Reducing trade with us.

But we increase trade where we can.

Yes

For example with O&G, we send as much to the US as they'll take, AND we find export markets off our coast. I'm of the same mindset for all our trade. But this boycott USA thing is the absolute wrong approach.

buying Canadian is the better approach. You’ll never be able to completely boycott but just pick other options.

 

[QV]

Trump just ended trade talks over an Ad.

I'd expect that. Just as sure as I'd expect Canada taking some measure if the US paid for Ads in Canada contradicting our government.

Doug Ford was unwise in that ad effort given the circumstances, and now BC's Eby suggests he is going to toss some gasoline on that bonfire. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

[Nvlgzr]

lol… no gay, Marxist Canadian wolves allowed.

Trump administration tells Colorado wolves must come from U.S. Rockies states, not Canada

The Trump administration is telling the state of Colorado it can no longer import wolves from Canada.

apnews.com

And they must bark & howl in American (non of that foreign nonsense)

 

[Remius]

I'd expect that. Just as sure as I'd expect Canada taking some measure if the US paid for Ads in Canada contradicting our government.

Doug Ford was unwise in that ad effort given the circumstances, and now BC's Eby suggests he is going to toss some gasoline on that bonfire. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

And it only highlights the volatility and unreliability of the current administration.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Hilarious that one side thinks other countries will be more reliable etc than the US has been. As if these other countries don't have their own interests primarily in mind along with a host of other factors (across oceans, less stable borders/governments, etc).

Has Canada done anything significant about interprovincial trade barriers yet?

I believe that most have been signed already. Believe that Quebec (not surprised) is the odd one out.

 

[Czech_pivo]

And it only highlights the volatility and unreliability of the current administration.

I'd add the word 'unprofessional'.

 

[Altair]

But this boycott USA thing is the absolute wrong approach.

Why? Do we have a obligation in CUSMA to buy heinz over frenchs? To vacation in the USA over the Caribbean or Europe? To stock our liquor stores with US alcohol over Canadian or European alchohol? Do we need to buy US fruits and vegetables over Canadian fruits and vegetables?

Why, exactly, is a US boycott the "wrong" approach?

 

[IKnowNothing]

Hilarious that one side thinks other countries will be more reliable etc than the US has been.

Has been =/= is. The reliability bar for other countries to get over has fallen through the floor.

But this boycott USA thing is the absolute wrong approach.

Selling =/= buying. Pushing back by reducing our imports of their goods is not the same as refusing to take their money for our goods.

 

[QV]

Why? Do we have a obligation in CUSMA to buy heinz over frenchs? To vacation in the USA over the Caribbean or Europe? To stock our liquor stores with US alcohol over Canadian or European alchohol? Do we need to buy US fruits and vegetables over Canadian fruits and vegetables?

Why, exactly, is a US boycott the "wrong" approach?

Publicly campaigning a boycott USA program is damaging, the USA holds the big stick in this economic spat and if that were to be reciprocated Canada would feel the hurt much more. Having a media scrum to dump out American booze (or Canadian for that matter) is infantile. As is boycotting vacation destinations.

The Americans are our friends and allies, we are socially and culturally closer to the US than other country, we are intertwined as two nations. If you have served any length of time you no doubt benefitted intimately from joint US/Can relations and have been supported in theatre by US assets.

Letting emotions dictate the political response to an unorthodox POTUS is unprofessional and gets us nowhere. The US has raised important issues, some of which many of us are now benefitting from (NATO 2%+) which would never have been a consideration without a whack from a bigger stick. Canada is no innocent victim in all this and for the past decade has pursued puerile policies. Some accountability is in order.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Publicly campaigning a boycott USA program is damaging, the USA holds the big stick in this economic spat and if that were to be reciprocated Canada would feel the hurt much more.

You mean like by installing heavy broad based tariffs with the stated intent of forcing our manufacturing base out of our country and into theirs?

Get a clue.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Yes but which group has the TDS? The blue group or the green group?

Now you're getting it

 

[Jarnhamar]

According to some here...everyone in blue has TDS.

Who’s saying that?
-Poilievre, still chewing on his apple voice

 

[Jarnhamar]

, and there is only 1 x Canadian who plays on the Blue Jays while most players are American.

I'm not a sports guy. Is that hyperbole?

 

[MrWhyt]

The Americans are our friends and allies,

tell that to the current US administration

 

[QV]

You mean like by installing heavy broad based tariffs with the stated intent of forcing our manufacturing base out of our country and into theirs?

Get a clue.

There have been billions of dollars in capital flight from Canada over the years. Most recently setting record exits. What has Canada done to fix that?

Canada’s Capital Flight Crisis: Record Exit By Foreign & Domestic Investors - Better Dwelling

Canada is facing record capital flight as foreign & domestic investors pull billions, hitting levels not seen since the Financial Crisis.

betterdwelling.com

 

[mariomike]

Scott / Staff had this to say about TDS ( Trump Derangement Syndrome ),

Let's just leave references to TDS out of things from now on. It adds nothing whatsoever.

Scott
Staff