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Trade isn’t some hostage situation; it’s a two-way deal. China needs our stuff, minerals, energy, fertlizier, just as much as we benefit from their market. Canada’s not walking into this blind either; we’ve got investment rules, trade safeguards, and allies backing a rules-based system. The idea that we’d just sit there and get “squeezed” for decades assumes we have zero leverage or strategy, which just isn’t true. Smart engagement isn’t submission, it’s using our strengths to stay in the game. Cutting ourselves off out of fear doesn’t protect us, it just makes us smaller and more dependent on the U.S.
I've blocked the individual you're responding to but I can imagine it's big bad China this, big bad China that, but I thought I would add.

Australia does most of their trade with China. Australia does not tariff BYD. Australia is not some dystopian hellscape due to trading with China.
 
Trade isn’t some hostage situation; it’s a two-way deal. China needs our stuff, minerals, energy, fertlizier, just as much as we benefit from their market. Canada’s not walking into this blind either; we’ve got investment rules, trade safeguards, and allies backing a rules-based system. The idea that we’d just sit there and get “squeezed” for decades assumes we have zero leverage or strategy, which just isn’t true. Smart engagement isn’t submission, it’s using our strengths to stay in the game. Cutting ourselves off out of fear doesn’t protect us, it just makes us smaller and more dependent on the U.S.

I have no great issue with plain, transactional ‘buy and sell’ of resources, goods and services with China, with necessary safeguards for national security and intellectual property protection. We don’t have to approve them buying stakes in Canadian companies. Want to buy copper or soybeans? Ok, we’ll sell you copper or soybeans. Obviously we need to be cautious lest we have too much of our supply of any particular sector feeding their demand, such that they can weaponize it. Want to sell us toys and kitchen appliances? Ok, cool. Stay within trade laws and agreements, don’t engage in anticompetitive practices, and we can do business.

Keep it transactional, rigorously safeguard national security and economic integrity, and don’t get too dependent on them as an export market. But within reason, sure, why wouldn’t we trade with an economy that huge?

Resilience through diversification- both of economic sectors, and of markets.
 
I have no great issue with plain, transactional ‘buy and sell’ of resources, goods and services with China, with necessary safeguards for national security and intellectual property protection. We don’t have to approve them buying stakes in Canadian companies. Want to buy copper or soybeans? Ok, we’ll sell you copper or soybeans. Obviously we need to be cautious lest we have too much of our supply of any particular sector feeding their demand, such that they can weaponize it. Want to sell us toys and kitchen appliances? Ok, cool. Stay within trade laws and agreements, don’t engage in anticompetitive practices, and we can do business.

Keep it transactional, rigorously safeguard national security and economic integrity, and don’t get too dependent on them as an export market. But within reason, sure, why wouldn’t we trade with an economy that huge?

Resilience through diversification- both of economic sectors, and of markets.
Basically we’re not friends with benefits, just friends.
 
Trade isn’t some hostage situation; it’s a two-way deal. China needs our stuff, minerals, energy, fertlizier, just as much as we benefit from their market. Canada’s not walking into this blind either; we’ve got investment rules, trade safeguards, and allies backing a rules-based system. The idea that we’d just sit there and get “squeezed” for decades assumes we have zero leverage or strategy, which just isn’t true. Smart engagement isn’t submission, it’s using our strengths to stay in the game. Cutting ourselves off out of fear doesn’t protect us, it just makes us smaller and more dependent on the U.S.
Sure. And along the way they find ways to acquire our tech and then undercut our companies, or we end up spending billions ripping out installed hardware we can't trust, or they get us dependent/vulnerable on a trade flow (in either direction) and then apply pressure to be politically compliant. There are deals to be made with Chinese suppliers and customers, but if the point is to disentangle from an unfriendly US, only a fool would turn around and entangle with a much more unfriendly China.

All of the things "bad" about the US (eg. relative DIME power, political interference, subordination of foreign interests to domestic interests, pressure to conform to their foreign policy) have the potential to be "worse" with China.
 
Modern diplomatic language ;)


U.S. ambassador to Canada goes on expletive-laced tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, witnesses say​

Incident happened at Canadian American Business Council gathering in Ottawa​


The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

Word spread quickly through some of the most powerful circles in Ottawa and Washington after the encounter, which happened during the Canadian American Business Council’s state of the relationship event at the National Gallery of Canada.

Typically, the high-profile gathering is used to network and celebrate the Canada-U.S. relationship. It draws a mix of cabinet ministers, diplomats and business leaders. Monday night's event drew Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand and Dominic LeBlanc, the minister responsible for Canada-U.S. trade.

Witnesses say they saw U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra launch into an expletive-laden tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, David Paterson.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.

 
Modern diplomatic language ;)


U.S. ambassador to Canada goes on expletive-laced tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, witnesses say​

Incident happened at Canadian American Business Council gathering in Ottawa​


The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

Word spread quickly through some of the most powerful circles in Ottawa and Washington after the encounter, which happened during the Canadian American Business Council’s state of the relationship event at the National Gallery of Canada.

Typically, the high-profile gathering is used to network and celebrate the Canada-U.S. relationship. It draws a mix of cabinet ministers, diplomats and business leaders. Monday night's event drew Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand and Dominic LeBlanc, the minister responsible for Canada-U.S. trade.

Witnesses say they saw U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra launch into an expletive-laden tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, David Paterson.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.

He‘s so sensitive and emotional. Does he really have the temperament for that kind of important government job? Maybe he should smile more.
 
Modern diplomatic language ;)


U.S. ambassador to Canada goes on expletive-laced tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, witnesses say​

Incident happened at Canadian American Business Council gathering in Ottawa​


The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

Word spread quickly through some of the most powerful circles in Ottawa and Washington after the encounter, which happened during the Canadian American Business Council’s state of the relationship event at the National Gallery of Canada.

Typically, the high-profile gathering is used to network and celebrate the Canada-U.S. relationship. It draws a mix of cabinet ministers, diplomats and business leaders. Monday night's event drew Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand and Dominic LeBlanc, the minister responsible for Canada-U.S. trade.

Witnesses say they saw U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra launch into an expletive-laden tirade at Ontario’s trade representative, David Paterson.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.


Can we send him home?
 
Basically we’re not friends with benefits, just friends.

North Americans are too free with that word. I don't need to be friends or allies or associates to do business. Aquaintance is fine.

Nor does everybody have to qualify for the same MSRP discount. Favouritism is allowed, as in the concept of "Most Favoured Nation".
 
Well, this is going to get interesting.

'Cheese slipped off the cracker': Ford calls on U.S. ambassador to apologize for profane rant against Ontario official​

Ford said Pete Hoekstra's behaviour was 'unbecoming of an ambassador' and said he should phone David Paterson, Ontario's trade representative to the United States

Ontario’s Doug Ford wants an apology from Trump’s ambassador to Canada​

Ford says Ambassador Pete Hoekstra crossed a line during a tense exchange over an anti-tariff ad.


“Pete, you gotta call Dave up and apologize, it’s simple,” Ford said Wednesday during a Toronto news conference on an unrelated issue. “You know, the cheese slipped off the cracker. I get it. You’re ticked off, but call the guy up because you’re a good guy, and Dave’s my champion.”

The U.S. embassy in Ottawa declined to comment on Wednesday.
 

Doug Ford: Why Ontario Ran the Reagan Ad​

It wasn’t a ‘hostile act,’ but rather an encouragement to embrace what has made our nations great.​


Does anyone have access to this article?

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