Trump administration 2024-2028

[dapaterson]

I thought they had to watch Matlock?

 

[RangerRay]

 

[Brad Sallows]

What are the odds that goon squad will take that advice? I’m guessing those Meal Team 6 goons can’t even spell “badge”.

Assuming not everyone who works for ICE is a goon, it's reasonable for the ones worried about being doxxed and harassed or threatened to tell the FBI to go pound sand and tell all applicable LEOs to do their job and go after people impersonating officers.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Assuming not everyone who works for ICE is a goon, it's reasonable for the ones worried about being doxxed and harassed or threatened to tell the FBI to go pound sand and tell all applicable LEOs to do their job and go after people impersonating officers.

Soooooo ....LEO's should stop every person wearing or appearing to wear or claiming to be ICE, but not wearing identification and force these people to prove they are ICE before letting them go? Isn't that "Systemic ICEism"?

And if a bunch of "real" ICE officers get stopped by LEO's and asked to prove who they are, is BOZO in WAWA going to cry "foul and harassment" and send in the National Guard?

If ICE personnel act appropriately and in accordance with the law like any other law enforcement agency, they should fear no more "doxxing, harassment or threatening" than any other law enforcement agency, and they should not require their identity to be hidden any more than any other LEO's.? I mean, they didn't have the problem before the new administration moved in and decide to act outside the law.

If the cause of "doxxing, harassment or threats" is the action of ICE officers acting like goons, then shouldn't the other, proper, ICE officers put them in their place and ICE management discipline, and be seen to discipline, the goon acting officers?

 

[Cloud Cover]

I have had a bad feeling for a while many individuals repping for ICE are not officers but an organized and growing militia under contract. Maybe not, but their large numbers and demeanour often suggest something other than a public service oriented sworn law enforcement official.
It seems to me there quite a bit of room for private contractors in this, and bounty hunters. Might just be me but I don’t trust many of them.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Soooooo ....LEO's should stop every person wearing or appearing to wear or claiming to be ICE, but not wearing identification and force these people to prove they are ICE before letting them go? Isn't that "Systemic ICEism"?

A guess: most ICE work in groups; most ICE walts - like most LEO posers - work alone. Anyone who wants to contort themselves to create unlikely scenarios for a practical world is of course free to do so.

If ICE personnel act appropriately and in accordance with the law like any other law enforcement agency, they should fear no more "doxxing, harassment or threatening" than any other law enforcement agency

They are uniquely unpopular. Almost all LEOs mainly are a threat to the "assholes" in the "citizens, assholes, and other police" world view. Immigration enforcement is tasked with dealing with ordinary people who are neither citizens nor assholes but whose best fit is the former, and some of the citizens have convinced themselves that illegal immigration favours them in the congressional apportionment calculations and likely voter pool. In short, they are seen by some as a threat to political power. As we have seen, that leads to everything up to and including assassination porn.

 

[brihard]

A guess: most ICE work in groups; most ICE walts - like most LEO posers - work alone. Anyone who wants to contort themselves to create unlikely scenarios for a practical world is of course free to do so.

They are uniquely unpopular. Almost all LEOs mainly are a threat to the "assholes" in the "citizens, assholes, and other police" world view. Immigration enforcement is tasked with dealing with ordinary people who are neither citizens nor assholes but whose best fit is the former, and some of the citizens have convinced themselves that illegal immigration favours them in the congressional apportionment calculations and likely voter pool. In short, they are seen by some as a threat to political power. As we have seen, that leads to everything up to and including assassination porn.

I’d say the risk is more that organized crime looking to conduct a kidnapping might dress it up as an ICE snatch. That’s a realistic possibility.

 

[RangerRay]

Assuming not everyone who works for ICE is a goon, it's reasonable for the ones worried about being doxxed and harassed or threatened to tell the FBI to go pound sand and tell all applicable LEOs to do their job and go after people impersonating officers.

Respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about here. Everyday, hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers across North America go to work and ruin the days and lives of many dodgy assholes without covering their face, with their names plastered on their vests and their badge numbers memorized for when asked. Few are worried about “doxxing” if they are doing their job properly. One of the hallmarks of a free and open society is that law enforcement don’t hide their identities when doing their work. In most jurisdictions, law enforcement can’t hide their identities for fear of doxxing.

Judging by what I’ve seen, these goons (and yes, based on their actions, lack of training and professionalism, these guys are goons) are hiding their identities because their actions would lead to disciplinary actions at best if they were real cops in normal times.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about here. Everyday, hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers across North America go to work and ruin the days and lives of many dodgy assholes without covering their face, with their names plastered on their vests and their badge numbers memorized for when asked. Few are worried about “doxxing” if they are doing their job properly. One of the hallmarks of a free and open society is that law enforcement don’t hide their identities when doing their work. In most jurisdictions, law enforcement can’t hide their identities for fear of doxxing.

Judging by what I’ve seen, these goons (and yes, based on their actions, lack of training and professionalism, these guys are goons) are hiding their identities because their actions would lead to disciplinary actions at best if they were real cops in normal times.

Meanwhile, in the Bronx...

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