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Trump administration 2024-2028

Eaglelord17 said:
They aren’t far off. The separation of powers is the only thing preventing it currently.
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Statement of obvious. The separation of powers is always the only thing preventing "it" - where "it" is almost any flavour of more centralized executive-centric government. The point is that another nail has been driven into each of the coffins of the theory that SCOTUS answers to Trump and the more general theory that US institutions are about to collapse into the necessary vestigial states required for the conditions of "authoritarianism" to be satisfied.
 
Staff note: Moved all the Trump-class ship traffic to this new thread on that here.

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brihard said:
No, you just use the super simple functionality built into Acrobat Pro that cleanly and reliably does a proper job of this. Guarantee DOJ already has teams of e-discovery pros who do this all day every day for a wide range of civil and criminal litigation. I really can’t wrap my head around how they were this inept.
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The guys who knew what they were doing probably got canned by DOGE.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Why is it not equally possible to take an uncharitable view the other way?
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This is what makes the discussions here a bit of a one-way street not worth bothering with.

Folks from the right here want to lump everyone who isn't with them as being on the other side and somehow see us as apologists for the extreme left.

Most of us here are centrists who happily call out the stupidity on the left and the right. The reason you are missing that is because, with the possible exception of DEI, leftist extremism is substantially more subtle than the verbal diarrhea that spouts out of MAGA. Your side is an easy target. The fact that most MAGA apologists don't see that is half of the problem.

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Bit perplexing as to what they did/said that set him off.

“The Failing New York Times, and their lies and purposeful misrepresentations, is a serious threat to the National Security of our Nation,” he wrote.

“Their Radical Left, Unhinged Behavior, writing FAKE Articles and Opinions in a never ending way, must be dealt with and stopped. THEY ARE A TRUE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE! Thank you for you attention to this matter. PRESIDENT DJT”.
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www.the-independent.com

Trump calls the NYT ‘a threat to national security’ in late night social media rant

Trump lashed out at the widely-respected newspaper in his latest attack on the media
www.the-independent.com www.the-independent.com
 
FJAG said:
This is what makes the discussions here a bit of a one-way street not worth bothering with.

Folks from the right here want to lump everyone who isn't with them as being on the other side and somehow see us as apologists for the extreme left.

Most of us here are centrists who happily call out the stupidity on the left and the right. The reason you are missing that is because, with the possible exception of DEI, leftist extremism is substantially more subtle than the verbal diarrhea that spouts out of MAGA. Your side is an easy target. The fact that most MAGA apologists don't see that is half of the problem.

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I think this sort of hypocrisy is sort of a core identity of the MAGA right.

I called out a poster here for being essentially a MAGA parrot, and rather then defending against my accusations (Which honestly, I'd totally respect if they said I was wrong and proved me wrong) the only response was basically a rant calling me a radical leftist with "TDS" and essentially textbook MAGA insults used by everyone in the movement.

Even if you are a centrist and dislike left-wing extremism as well, unless you're with them you may as well be a massive partisan "Liberal" in their eyes.

That's just sort of the political climate with these folks, and talking to them about it, or asking questions - it's essentially fruitless.

There is absolutely nothing Trump could do that would make them walk away from the movement, it's their identity. It's for this reason, I think we truly are in cult territory at this point.

And let be clear, I have no problem with any views, I don't care if someone voted for Trump in the past, but we're just kind of at the point where, uhh.... Things have gotten just ridiculous and quite honestly very bizarre. Just today, "Trump class" battleships built in 2.5 years? It's more and more crazy all the time!
 
Mills Bomb said:
I think this sort of hypocrisy is sort of a core identity of the MAGA right.

I called out a poster here for being essentially a MAGA parrot, and rather then defending against my accusations (Which honestly, I'd totally respect if they said I was wrong and proved me wrong) the only response was basically a rant calling me a radical leftist with "TDS" and essentially textbook MAGA insults used by everyone in the movement.

Even if you are a centrist and dislike left-wing extremism as well, unless you're with them you may as well be a massive partisan "Liberal" in their eyes.

That's just sort of the political climate with these folks, and talking to them about it, or asking questions - it's essentially fruitless.

There is absolutely nothing Trump could do that would make them walk away from the movement, it's their identity. It's for this reason, I think we truly are in cult territory at this point.

And let be clear, I have no problem with any views, I don't care if someone voted for Trump in the past, but we're just kind of at the point where, uhh.... Things have gotten just ridiculous and quite honestly very bizarre. Just today, "Trump class" battleships built in 2.5 years? It's more and more crazy all the time!
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In the Before Times, a president acting like this would have been impeached or 25th amendment’d.

I would also say that there is nothing conservative about MAGA. It’s white Christian nationalism and tech anarcho-capitalism.
 
FJAG said:
Most of us here are centrists who happily call out the stupidity on the left and the right. The reason you are missing that is because, with the possible exception of DEI, leftist extremism is substantially more subtle than the verbal diarrhea that spouts out of MAGA. Your side is an easy target. The fact that most MAGA apologists don't see that is half of the problem.
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"MAGA" isn't my side. Reason (.com) and National Review (.com) are places I often find commentary with which I'm in agreement. I invite anyone to go count the numbers of pro-Trump and anti-Trump articles on any given day.

I'm not sure there's much calling out stupidity on left and right; approximately 20 of every 20 posts here on US politics are about Trump's latest stupidity and the reactions are mostly as banal as the provocations. Most are matters of no consequence, and about 15 minutes after Trump's 30-minute attention span fades on some particular pronunciation, everyone forgets about Trump's 30-minute attention span and acts like the next outburst ought be taken seriously. Maybe 1 in 10 or even 20 I think it's worth weighing in because the latest knee-jerk defence/applause of whatever some Democrat supporters are pitching is worth unpacking. In the recent example, a person who really doesn't know about the US media inside baseball involving Weiss and her detractors and her path to where she is now is missing a lot of context. Bitter vindictive people are involved.
 
Mills Bomb said:
Even if you are a centrist and dislike left-wing extremism as well, unless you're with them you may as well be a massive partisan "Liberal" in their eyes.
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Works both ways, and the left in the US was demanding political purity for years before it recently became an issue on the right.

That is one of the themes I choose to weigh in on.

Someone: "Look at this shit that happened today!".

Me: "This has actually been going on for years. What makes it objectionable now?"

Someone: "I don't know. I just want to look at this shit that happened today!".
 
brihard said:
Either he's plunging headlong into authoritarianism, or his cheese is sliding off his cracker. Let's stop pretending one of those two things isn't true.
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I'm going to side with the cheese option.

monty python dead parrot GIF by Vulture.com
 
brihard said:
No, you just use the super simple functionality built into Acrobat Pro that cleanly and reliably does a proper job of this. Guarantee DOJ already has teams of e-discovery pros who do this all day every day for a wide range of civil and criminal litigation. I really can’t wrap my head around how they were this inept.
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the twitter says that DOGE cut their Pro subscription lol
 
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