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Bruce
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Trump administration 2024-2028
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LAST COMPARISON TO NAZI'S IN THIS THREAD [OR IN OUR ' LIBERAL MAJORITY' TOPIC ALSO]
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Bruce
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I think Ytz is saying this is historic numbers for Democrat's.
He keeps going by national numbers. Notice how he ignored the state houses flipped. Or how he ignored the example of Texas waking up to news they'll be California in January. Or the fact that the 2010 midterms, ass whooping that they were, still saw the Democrats hold the Senate. This was almost like a good chunk of America had an anaphylactic reaction to the GOP.
Like I keep saying, if California or New York changed every state wide position to Republican in a single election, I would call that historic too. We have Republicans who get this. But somehow, randos in Canada don't.
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Only thing missing is him holding a white Persian cat.
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I worry that this is the take the Democrats will have, and decide to squander their good will on fringe far left silliness.
The electorate reacted to MAGA, that doesn't make them full-blown Democrats. It means they punished the worst excesses of the MAGA crowd, but doesn't signify a hard shift to the left.
I hope they learn what the LPC seem to have learned, being in the centre beats fighting on the margins.
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“Ladies and gentlemen, there’s turbulence coming up so please return to your seats and fasten your seatbelts tightly…”
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Yes; it's necessary to properly situate the estimate for it to be "historic". At least that's marginally better than "in-con-ceivable!".
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No need to worry. The far left silliness was right out declared in the open well prior to the election.
ArmyRick
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Tip the ship too far left or right, and she sinks.
The political parties need to focus on the 80% of the population which is somewhere in the center. At least for us Canadians. And I do know many an American (including 6 cousins), and not one of them is far left or far right.
However people also have to be careful what they define as "far/fringe left or right"
A few examples
-Wanting a decent universal healthcare does NOT make you far left
-Wanting reasonable and manageable immigration does NOT make you far right
-Wanting a decent education system for all does NOT make you far left
-Wanting to a moderately effective armed forces does NOT make you far right
and we could go on.
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I haven't ignored anything. I have no idea what's on the list of things you are thinking about. Try introducing an additional factor to the discussion and exploring it before assuming anyone is "ignoring" it.
As I already wrote, "There are some noteworthy, perhaps even "historical" pieces". They don't automatically make the whole thing "historic".
Control of a chamber doesn't have to flip for a net gain number to be consequential, and a modest gain can sometimes flip a chamber. It's the gain number that has the potential to make something "historic".
FL was a battleground state until it wasn't any more. CO was purple until it wasn't. State voting patterns do change. Democrats have been claiming they were going to break into TX (Senate and governor) for several elections now. It's hardly historic when it finally happens, unless they were just winding themselves up the whole time and didn't really believe they had a shot.
Something also isn't "historic" just because no-one had a reliable tool to see it coming.