Turkey refuses entry to NATO warships on migrant blockade ops

[CougarKing]

Maybe it's just the Greek warships not allowed? ???

Defence-blog.com

Turkey refused to allow NATO warships
Mar 2, 2016

NATO vessels deployed in the Aegean Sea to help stop the flow of migrants into Europe have not yet started operating in Turkish waters and are waiting for the go-ahead from alliance member Ankara, diplomats told AFP Tuesday.

Despite requests by the NATO operation’s German command, “the Turks refused” this weekend to allow the vessels to enter into Turkish waters, a diplomatic source told AFP.

Another diplomat confirmed the report.

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[Kirkhill]

And now it all becomes personal....

 

[The Bread Guy]

Just a reminder:  HMCS Fredericton is part of this task force.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I think it's about time that NATO has a serious discussion about, and then with, Turkey. Time to tell them to get off the fence.

Personally, and without thought to major\ minor world machinations about the outcome, I think it's time to cut them out.

 

[MARS]

As an example, for some context, the established timeline to staff a routine DIPCLEAR for RCN vessels to enter US waters is 60 days.  So, given that the article indicates the plan was first tabled 8 Feb, the fatc that it hasnt yet been granted, a mere 3 weeks henceforth, is not at all surprising, especially given the nature of the deployment in question.

 

[dapaterson]

As an example, for some context, the established timeline to staff a routine DIPCLEAR for RCN vessels to enter US waters is 60 days.  So, given that the article indicates the plan was first tabled 8 Feb, the fatc that it hasnt yet been granted, a mere 3 weeks henceforth, is not at all surprising, especially given the nature of the deployment in question.

This is the Internet.  Stop using facts.

 

[Kirkhill]

I think it's about time that NATO has a serious discussion about, and then with, Turkey. Time to tell them to get off the fence.

Personally, and without thought to major\ minor world machinations about the outcome, I think it's time to cut them out.

The problem is here:

And if the situation continues they will be back to the Gates of Vienna and the Rubicon (if the Italians are lucky and the Alps if they are not) and see the Pyrenees rise again.

Greece is being sacrificed to become a grand version of Calais.

Europe is driving Greece, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon into a block.  All moderate countries that have been pushed to and beyond their limits.

Meanwhile Vlad 

Nato chief: Vladimir Putin 'weaponising' refugee crisis to 'break' Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12180073/Nato-chief-Vladimir-Putin-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-break-Europe.html

 

[Halifax Tar]

Interesting.

 

[Journeyman]

How happy is the property owner in the bottom-right corner? 

 

[The Bread Guy]

Meanwhile Vlad 

Nato chief: Vladimir Putin 'weaponising' refugee crisis to 'break' Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12180073/Nato-chief-Vladimir-Putin-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-break-Europe.html

Old news from Putin's satirical Twitter feed ...  ;D

Fund Assad's slaughter.
Fund anti-refugee parties in EU.
Blame EU for refugee crisis.
Watch EU divide.
Laugh.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... Meanwhile Vlad 

Nato chief: Vladimir Putin 'weaponising' refugee crisis to 'break' Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12180073/Nato-chief-Vladimir-Putin-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-break-Europe.html

Russia's MoD:  Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?  ;D

... Russian Ministry of Defense spokesman Igor Konashenkov asserted that the United Nations has recorded a decline in refugee flow from the war-torn country and that peace talks have been initiated after Russia launched air campaign in Syria last September, according to RT.com. He also said that the U.S.-led coalition formed to fight against the militant group, also known as ISIS, has failed to start the reconciliation talks.

Countering Breedlove’s comments on Russia’s “indiscriminate” and “non-precision” bombing, Konashenkov said: “Sole reliance on ‘supersmart’ or ‘superprecision’ weapons leads American hawks to tragic mistakes with fatal consequences, as it was repeatedly observed in Afghanistan, Iraq, and since recently — in Syria.” ...

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Translation of Russia's MOD statement: We do indiscriminate bombing because it works, and as we "state" control the media here, they don't make a fuss about "collateral" damage. War Crime Tribunal? I ain't extraditing anyone, so what me worry  [.

 

[Kirkhill]

Spot the difference.

The top one is from Greece. The bottom one is from Calais.

The only solution is going to be making these people safe in their own homes.  And that is going to mean both tackling Vlad head on and neo-colonialism (permanent presence in western refuges in eastern locations).

 

[The Bread Guy]

Translation of Russia's MOD statement: We do indiscriminate bombing because it works, and as we "state" control the media here, they don't make a fuss about "collateral" damage. War Crime Tribunal? I ain't extraditing anyone, so what me worry  [.

:nod: