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US Presidential Election 2020

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QV said:
I’m fairly certain Trump is going to win both the electoral college and the popular vote this November. 

Why are you so certain, since he didn't win the popular vote in 2016?  Hillary had almost 3 million more votes than Trump.

https://time.com/4608555/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final/
 
Because I think there has been a tide change in how Democrats and fence sitters will vote.  The Russia collusion hoax, impeachment, CHAZ, cancel culture, the majority who fear to declare their political affiliation, unofficial polls, the Biden/Harris ticket, lefty podcasts declaring to switch sides.  I think a lot of Americans have been paying attention, not saying much, and will vote Trump as a big F U to the establishment.
 
QV said:
Because I think there has been a tide change in how Democrats and fence sitters will vote.  The Russia collusion hoax, impeachment, CHAZ, cancel culture, the majority who fear to declare their political affiliation, unofficial polls, the Biden/Harris ticket, lefty podcasts declaring to switch sides.  I think a lot of Americans have been paying attention, not saying much, and will vote Trump as a big F U to the establishment.

Progressive Democrats are going to abandon Biden and vote Trump?
 
QV said:
Because I think there has been a tide change in how Democrats and fence sitters will vote.  The Russia collusion hoax, impeachment, CHAZ, cancel culture, the majority who fear to declare their political affiliation, unofficial polls, the Biden/Harris ticket, lefty podcasts declaring to switch sides.  I think a lot of Americans have been paying attention, not saying much, and will vote Trump as a big F U to the establishment.

Sadly, the US political landscape is such that there probably aren't many fence-sitters left. 

As far as the Russia collusion goes, is the final Senate Intelligence Committee (bipartisan, btw) report a few weeks ago a hoax too then?

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report
 
suffolkowner said:
Progressive Democrats are going to abandon Biden and vote Trump?

Yes, some.  Search it.  I’ve listened to several podcasts of former SJW who cried the night Trump won and are now voting for him. 
 
Dimsum said:
Sadly, the US political landscape is such that there probably aren't many fence-sitters left. 

As far as the Russia collusion goes, is the final Senate Intelligence Committee (bipartisan, btw) report a few weeks ago a hoax too then?

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report

Foreign governments interfere or try to all the time. That is a known. The hoax I’m referring to is the assertion DJT was a Russian asset who schemed with Putin to steal the election from HRC.  This is the reason Mueller was appointed.  None of that was “properly predicated”. 

 
QV said:
  I think a lot of Americans have been paying attention, not saying much, and will vote Trump as a big F U to the establishment.

I think you have a good point there, re. the establishment. The Dems and their media pushed very hard for Biden as their candidate and I think the reason for doing that was because they still feared the redbaiting that would come with Bernie or Elizabeth. Americans still believe that there's a commie under every bed ready to jump out and bite their toes off.
 
In the political party or personality cult department, the RNC has adopted a resolution that the party has no platform, but will enthusiastically support the President's America-first agenda.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/RESOLUTION_REGARDING_THE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf?_ga=2.109560193.504857691.1598219603-2087748323.1598219603
 
Trump is unlikely to win the popular vote.  CA alone provided a larger margin of Democratic popular votes than the overall total for the country, and is unlikely to shift a large number of votes over to Trump with a CA senator running on the ticket.  Trump might win the popular vote of the 49 states excluding CA again, but not the overall total.
 
dapaterson said:
In the political party or personality cult department, the RNC has adopted a resolution that the party has no platform, but will enthusiastically support the President's America-first agenda.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/RESOLUTION_REGARDING_THE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf?_ga=2.109560193.504857691.1598219603-2087748323.1598219603

:rofl:

Brad Sallows said:
Trump is unlikely to win the popular vote.  CA alone provided a larger margin of Democratic popular votes than the overall total for the country, and is unlikely to shift a large number of votes over to Trump with a CA senator running on the ticket.  Trump might win the popular vote of the 49 states excluding CA again, but not the overall total.

I'm not sure you meant  that the way it sounded. Trump lost the popular vote in 22 states in 2016. See here.

:cheers:
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/kellyanne-conway-george-conway-white-house-lincoln-project/index.html


Kellyanne Conway leaving the White House.

Seems like an inopportune to be leaving the White House.
 
Remius said:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/kellyanne-conway-george-conway-white-house-lincoln-project/index.html


Kellyanne Conway leaving the White House.

Seems like an inopportune to be leaving the White House.

Can't stand that woman, she should have left a long time ago, IMO.
 
>I'm not sure you meant  that the way it sounded.

Probably not.  I meant the sum of the vote.
 
Can Trump ride a bike?

If he can, perhaps he should challenge Joe to a race?  :)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/opinions/biden-biking-trump-debate-attack-line-obeidallah/index.html
 
Sunday comedy from our little buddy Brian Stelter from CNN. He brought this up on his show Reliable Sources. Seems he wants to real time fact check the RNC this week and cut away to give "the truth". The DNC last week was not given such treatment. What's fair is fair, if they see something they should say so later. Now whether CNN will take this tack this week remains to be seen. Maybe it is just the dreams of a young man trying to make it in the world.

https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/status/1297567810844065792
 
mariomike said:
Can Trump ride a bike?

If he can, perhaps he should challenge Joe to a race?  :)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/opinions/biden-biking-trump-debate-attack-line-obeidallah/index.html

That's all we need, more crazy suggestions.
 
stellarpanther said:
Can't stand that woman, she should have left a long time ago, IMO.
You should be careful, you could be accused of sexism. On the other hand that only applies to conservatives, saying "that woman" is an automatic trip to the penalty box for them.
 
kkwd said:
That's all we need, more crazy suggestions.

Can Trump ride  a bike? He seems to have difficulty walking on ramps. 

kkwd said:
Biden gives a number of people who have watched him in his basement that sounds impressive.

Trump hid in a bunker from his fellow Americans.
 
Dimsum said:
Sadly, the US political landscape is such that there probably aren't many fence-sitters left. 

As far as the Russia collusion goes, is the final Senate Intelligence Committee (bipartisan, btw) report a few weeks ago a hoax too then?

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report

Hi Dimsum

If one reads that report, which is seems to be fairly balanced, one finds little tidbits like this:

“Russia and other countries took advantage of the Transition Team's inexperience... the report reads, noting that this made the “transition open to influence and manipulation.”

... according to the Senate report, which also alleges that Manafort “worked with Kilimnik

The GOP-led committee said it “obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election,”

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a member of the Intelligence Committee, hinted that senators have additional information

The panel also found that Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, may have known that former Trump lawyer

Trump Jr. and Felix Sater, Trump's onetime business associate — “could have known that Cohen's statement falsely represented material facts about negotiations over a deal for a Trump Tower Moscow.”

It also warned that there was a “potential direct channel for Russian influence” because of Steele’s ties to Deripaska.

Six of the eight GOP senators on the committee offered additional views, included in a section separate from the bipartisan findings, saying that “after more than three years of investigation by this Committee, we can now say with no doubt, there was no collusion.”

Five of the panel’s seven Democrats countered that the report “unambiguously shows that members of the Trump Campaign cooperated with Russian efforts to get Trump elected.”

The committee also took issue with the FBI’s response to the DNC hack, arguing it should’ve had more contact with the Democratic committee, despite describing the outreach on both sides as “inadequate.”

As for the FBI response to the DNC hack, Sundance of Conservative Tree House explains: "Despite the Russian 'hacking' claim the DOJ previously admitted the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server.  Instead the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.

Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the Crowdstrike report."
 
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