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Huh. I thought no one leaves his rallies early - he said so in the debate!
US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence
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Huh. I thought no one leaves his rallies early - he said so in the debate!
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It's hilarious the various callsigns on this forum mocking a guy like Elon Musk. Have you considered your contribution to humankind and your personal successes in that analysis by comparison?
On another note; according to CNN the hype for Harris may not be as it is portrayed after all. Of course one must take anything CNN says with a grain of salt.
On another note; according to CNN the hype for Harris may not be as it is portrayed after all. Of course one must take anything CNN says with a grain of salt.
Yes. This why Harris and side shouldn’t take anything for granted. This is going to be very closely fought.
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It is hard to say how accurate polls are or will be. One thing widespread mail-in-voting has impacted is the validity of exit polls.
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"according to CNN"?
I'm assuming that you came across this clip within the past day or two as it seems to have started being reposted about 18 hours ago on many MAGA/GOP friendly sites. I only looked into it as I was interested in what was said before and after the quick blurb by Ryan Girduksy (I didn't know of his existence before seeing that clip) that happened on 12 Sep (12 days ago), which was later isolated and used by FOX (don't know when they ran their coverage of that few seconds) or how they characterized it.
So, "according to a former Vance staffer who was likely engaged as the counterpoint commentator on a CNN political opinion show 12 days ago and without context of the entire discussion was excerpted and broadcast by FOX News" the hype for Harris . . . yada yada.
I think you can save your grain of salt.
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I don't know because I haven't been able to find the entire discussion. That's the problem with these bullshit seconds long blurbs; they are not meant to inform, they're there to increase clicks or aggravate/encourage those who already ascribe to or oppose a certain point of view. Context matters.
You're the one who posted this shit, it's on you to either defend it or accept that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Fight the sources if that's how you cope. However, Van Jones is one of the few partisan Democrats willing to openly tell inconvenient truths. Harry Enten, who appears fairly often on CNN, doesn't try to spin his interpretations of polls and forecasting models to soothe Democratic jitters. Nate Silver is more interested in producing reliable forecasting models than he is in pushing Democratic fortunes, and he does push Democratic fortunes, so it's reasonable to conclude he doesn't fix bias into his models. And the RCP polling average was one of the closer "models" the past couple of times out, and they are publishing a "This Day In History" feature where you can check this year's polls against what the same date polling averages were in 2016 and 2020.
Unless the polling agencies have fixed their D+X biases, Harris is in trouble. That's why they're trying to goad Trump into anotherpanel interview debate. They probably also are looking for another "bump" opportunity. Harris's poll numbers are in the same region where Biden's were before his debate, and he was considered by his own people to already be losing then. All of the happy-happy-joy-joy improved Democratic fortunes only with respect to the drop after Biden's debate. They've been wasting time huffing their own farts instead of taking the risk of having Harris talk to undecided voters about something more concrete than aspirations.
Unless the polling agencies have fixed their D+X biases, Harris is in trouble. That's why they're trying to goad Trump into another
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Until the candidate is in office, what can be more concrete than “I will do XYZ”? Isn’t that what Trump is saying?
And last I checked, Harris is not currently the POTUS. Her talking about she did as VPOTUS is one thing, but those are two different functions. Otherwise why have the position of VP at all if they’re just mimicking what POTUS does?
For a military (well, navy) analogy, the XO and the CO do not have the same jobs.
Musk is an almost stereotypical “you die a hero, or you live long enough to be the villain” situation.
His superpower was having money.
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I suppose you're free to discount his level of intelligence in all this.
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Someone in Arizona has voted early ...
www.nbcnews.com
Harris campaign office damaged by gunfire in Arizona
No one was present or injured at the office, a state Democratic Party spokesperson said. Tempe police said they are investigating the incident as a property crime.
www.nbcnews.com
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But she spends so much time not saying what she will do, instead rambling on about how she agrees with a question.
Yeah, that just happened to him. Lucky guy.
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