Wearing of Medals -- Another Type of Question

[Edward Campbell]

I had to sort through my late mother's effects not all that many years ago.

I recall that my father's medals came with a 'note' from King George VI as did her silver cross, but it was accompanied by a personal note from the Earl of Athlone who had been GG and something of a friend, at least something a bit beyond acquaintance (although my mother despised Princess Alice).  (Of course the King's 'notes' were managed in Canada by some functionary but that's beside the point.)

I am quite certain that my mother would have done whatever she jolly well pleased with those medals and she would have shredded any milquetoast little snivel servant from DVA (up to and including the Deputy Minister) who might have dared to suggest she did not have that absolute right.  The medals passed from the King to her, and were no business of the Government of Canada, which always was, in her mind, nothing but a pimple on the prick of progress.

 

[Acorn]

Taken form my previous link:

Can I purchase another set of medals for my children/grandchildren even if a set is already in existence?
Veterans Affairs Canada issues only one set of medals.
If additional sets are required you may wish to contact a military outfitter and purchase miniature commemorative medals.

Well, you stated:

That answer came from Veteran's Affairs, the very people who give out the medals.

Which made me think you believe that VA issues all medals. That's not true - mine were not issued by VA.

VA is responsible to issue medals to those who, for whatever reason, didn't get issued them while serving or they issue replacement medals only to the former service member entitled to wear them if they are lost or stolen, usually at the expense of the individual.

Acorn

 

[the 48th regulator]

I agree with Acorn,

This doesn't look like the VA issuing my medal...

Medals Parade

dileas

tess

 

[Slim]

Speaking of medals...

I have spent 15 years in the CF and, am told, I am now due for a CD.

What, if any, are the chances that the CF will award me this medal.

I know it doesn't sound like a big deal but it would be nice to have at least ONE to pass to the kids (if there ever are any).

Slim

 

[Roy Harding]

Speaking of medals...

I have spent 15 years in the CF and, am told, I am now due for a CD.

What, if any, are the chances that the CF will award me this medal.

I know it doesn't sound like a big deal but it would be nice to have at least ONE to pass to the kids (if there ever are any).

Slim

Slim:

Your profile indicates that you are retired - if that is the case, go here:  http://www.forces.gc.ca/hr/dhh/engraph/contacts_e.asp?contact=2#gen

If you are still serving in some capacity, see your Orderly Room.

As to whether you ever produce heirs; - that is beyond the scope of the CF, DND, DHH, or The Legion!!!

 

[Springroll]

I agree with Acorn,

This doesn't look like the VA issuing my medal...

Medals Parade

dileas

tess

Obviously you did not read the link I posted.
Do you know what medals VA issues??
Go to the VA website and you will see one HUGE list of them.
They are also not usually the ones giving them to you...that is left to your command, or your higher ups.

 

[the 48th regulator]

ladies and gents,

the shot you just heard was in the foot...

Springroll stop while you are a head, please please please.

dileas

tes

 

[Roy Harding]

Obviously you did not read the link I posted.
Do you know what medals VA issues??
Go to the VA website and you will see one HUGE list of them.
They are also not usually the ones giving them to you...that is left to your command, or your higher ups.

Springroll:

VA does NOT "issue" or "authorize" medals.  They "administer" medal distribution on behalf of Veterans - in accordance with instructions, orders, and policies promulgated by the "issuing" authorities.

I can't believe I'm posting this - I'll no doubt get some argument in return.

To quote someone else on another thread "This is gonna suck.  Follow me"

 

[Edward Campbell]

Obviously you did not read the link I posted.
Do you know what medals VA issues??
Go to the VA website and you will see one HUGE list of them.
They are also not usually the ones giving them to you...that is left to your command, or your higher ups.

Nonsense! Arrant nonsense!

Medals, decorations and awards are conferred or awarded by the sovereign.  The sovereign's servants, her admirals and generals and commissioners (of the RCMP) etc, manage the issuing.

Veterans Affairs is a load of pencil necked, milquetoast, overpaid bureaucrats who package up and distribute replacement medals and bits of ribbons.  They are glorified shop clerks.

 

[Roy Harding]

Nonsense! Arrant nonsense!

Medals, decorations and awards are conferred or awarded by the sovereign.  The sovereign's servants, her admirals and generals and commissioners (of the RCMP) etc, manage the issuing.

Veterans Affairs is a load of pencil necked, milquetoast, overpaid bureaucrats who package up and distribute replacement medals and bits of ribbons.  They are glorified shop clerks.

Springroll:

Don't go there. 

"Thar be dragons".  (AND - he's absolutely correct)

Just a word to the wise - your choice, of course, whether you find that particular group includes you.

 

[the 48th regulator]

Roy Harding and Edward Campbell,

Cheers, I think , by her silence, we have finally drilled it into our resident "VA expert" the error of her ways...

dileas

tess

 

[Springroll]

Roy Harding and Edward Campbell,

Cheers, I think , by her silence, we have finally drilled it into our resident "VA expert" the error of her ways...

dileas

tess

Actually, I was spending time with my family, that is why I have not posted until now.
I should have made myself more clear when I said they issue medals.
They do not issue all medals, but there is quite an extensive list that they are responsible for.

Taken from the VA site:
Q: How do I apply for and/or replace military medals and decorations?
A: Information on the military medals and decorations that Veterans Affairs Canada are responsible for and a list of qualifying areas of service for Regular Forces is by writing to Honours and Awards, Veterans Affairs Canada, 66 Slater Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P4

Here was another snippet taken from the VA website:
Honours and Awards
VAC provides first issue or replacement medals, free of charge, to qualified veterans or their spouses within nine weeks of the date we received an application. The number of replacements is limited to four per veteran.
If the veteran has passed away, the immediate next-of-kin may qualify to receive the first issue at no charge, or replacements at cost, within 15 weeks of the date we received an application

Sorry that I had not made myself more clear.

 

[Roy Harding]

Actually, I was spending time with my family, that is why I have not posted until now.
I should have made myself more clear when I said they issue medals.
They do not issue all medals, but there is quite an extensive list that they are responsible for.

Taken from the VA site:
Q: How do I apply for and/or replace military medals and decorations?
A: Information on the military medals and decorations that Veterans Affairs Canada are responsible for and a list of qualifying areas of service for Regular Forces is by writing to Honours and Awards, Veterans Affairs Canada, 66 Slater Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P4

Here was another snippet taken from the VA website:
Honours and Awards
VAC provides first issue or replacement medals, free of charge, to qualified veterans or their spouses within nine weeks of the date we received an application. The number of replacements is limited to four per veteran.
If the veteran has passed away, the immediate next-of-kin may qualify to receive the first issue at no charge, or replacements at cost, within 15 weeks of the date we received an application

Sorry that I had not made myself more clear.

GAWDAMMIT Springroll - I just lost a bet on you.

 

[Springroll]

GAWDAMMIT Springroll - I just lost a bet on you.

Well fill me in on it?

 

[the 48th regulator]

Here was another snippet taken from the VA website:
Honours and Awards
VAC provides first issue or replacement medals, free of charge, to qualified veterans or their spouses within nine weeks of the date we received an application. The number of replacements is limited to four per veteran.
If the veteran has passed away, the immediate next-of-kin may qualify to receive the first issue at no charge, or replacements at cost, within 15 weeks of the date we received an application

Sorry that I had not made myself more clear.

Well, Don't be sorry for being more clear, be sorry for questioning those of us that try to correct the errors of your ways...

Once again you try to bang the hand of those of us that want to help, then apologize with a lame excuse as to why you made your snide comment...

please just learn from us, that is all I ask just learn.....

dileas

tess

 

[Edward Campbell]

GAWDAMMIT Springroll - I just lost a bet on you.

That's OK, Roy, I just won a wee dram of Oban (bet with myself).  I have strong views on human nature. most of them not fit for a family web site.

 

[Springroll]

Well, Don't be sorry for being more clear, be sorry for questioning those of us that try to correct the errors of your ways...

Once again you try to bang the hand of those of us that want to help, then apologize with a lame excuse as to why you made your snide comment...

please just learn from us, that is all I ask just learn.....

dileas

tess

Excuse me, but when you highlight something in my post, make sure you do not forget the entire part like this "VAC provides first issue or replacement medals, not just the part that fits your argument.

To be quite honest, am not going to respond to the remainder of your post, since it is alot of BS.

Good Day 

 

[Roy Harding]

That's OK, Roy, I just won a wee dram of Oban (bet with myself).  I have strong views on human nature. most of them not fit for a family web site.

Truth be known, my bet was only with myself as well - I have similar (I suspect) strong views on human nature - I'm just not QUITE experienced enough to not doubt my own convictions and experience - but I'm rapidly getting there.

 

[the 48th regulator]

I beg your pardon?

my post is "BS"

that's it, get the hell out of here.  The likes of you are not needed here.

that's being polite.

dileas

tess

 

[Springroll]

Program Records

Veterans Affairs Canada shares program records registered in this section with the Veterans Review and Appeal Board

Honours and Awards
Description: Information on the issue and replacement of First and Second World Wars and Korea campaign stars, medals, clasps, service buttons and Silver Memorial Crosses.

Topics: General; policy; campaign stars and medals; non-Canadian awards and certificates; Queen's Scarf of Honour; correspondence regarding books on war medals and decorations of Canada; Victoria Cross - general; news clippings; statistics and statements; Korea Service Badge; Canadian Volunteer Service Medal; Hong Kong Bar; Dieppe Bar; Corps of Canadian Firefighters; Fenian Raids and Northwest Rebellion; Memorial Bar; Memorial Cross - general; Mercer Case; Naval Memorial Crosses; South Africa Medal; United Nations and Far East Medal; and war service badges.

Program Record Number: VAC MVA 005

Just information for those that want to research what I have posted taken from http://www.infosource.gc.ca/inst/dva/fed05_e.asp