When do small arms stop being small arms

[Scoobie Newbie]

For example I know 25mm is small arms as is Karl G and a RPG.  So what is the criteria that makes something fit in the small arms category?

 

[Munxcub]

Man Portable?

 

[George Wallace]

Huh?

Anything 12.7 mm/.50 Cal or less is considered Small Arms.  

25 mm is considered a Cannon.

The Carl G is not a Small Arm.  An RPG is a Grenade Launcher, not a Small Arm.

Conky told me to tell you....... "IDIOT".

 

[tank recce]

Apparently the need for two-plus individuals to carry the round!  ;D

Talking out the south end of a northbound myself here, but I would have classed all of those as "heavy weapons". Anything that takes two guys and a supply of 24vdc to operate ain't a "small arm" by MY definition! A quick Google search turns up a number of listings, none of which cover (IMHO) the examples you listed. I'm dying to see the official CF definition, from those who know more than I...

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Well the chopper was brought down by small arms fire, an RPG (yeah I know about not listening to the news).  I have heard the 25 referred to as small arms.  That's why I was hoping for the official party line.

 

[HItorMiss]

I think GW covered it best without the official Pam in his hands. I don't classify Carl G or RPG as small arms on my Anti-Armour Gunner course they were classified as Anti Armour weapons. I believe the Carl G is a SRAAW H or SRAAW M, though I can check in the book as it may now be the SRAAW L but I think was was used to deffine the M72.

 

[RCR Grunt]

HoM

I think M72 is SRAAW L, Carl G is SRAAW M and ERYX was SRAAW H.

I think, don't quote me.

 

[medaid]

That's correct! I will quote you

No all seriousness.

M72 = SRAAW L
Carl G = SRAAW M
Eryx = SRAAW H

 

[KevinB]

Greater than .50 is generally no longer considered a small arm.

However they added M203 and CarlG etc. to SAIC -- so  :

 

[HItorMiss]

Yeah I checked my old AAP books, Grunt and MedTech are right. So by those classifications that removes them from small arms and makes them Anti Armour weapons.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

There is a 25mm MG about the size of Browning M2 offered, them there are the automatic grenade launchers, it does get blurry nowdays!

 

[McG]

I think M72 is SRAAW L, Carl G is SRAAW M and ERYX was SRAAW H.

M72 = SRAWW L
Carl G = SRAWW M
Eryx = SRAWW H

SRAAW =short range anti-armour Weapon

 

[HItorMiss]

SRAAW =short range anti-armour Weapon

Yup never mind 

 

[McG]

Check my qoutes.  Somebody missed it.

 

[medaid]

Me, my bad poorer spelling me's have!

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Here is the 25mm

http://www.defense-update.com/products/x/xm307.htm

 

[KevinB]

T'is not the size of the weapon but that of the bore.

My comment on the SAIC -- was just that it was becoming the Advanced Infantry Weapons Instructors course -- in everything but name.

 

[McG]

"In 1988 NATO agreed that Small Arms were to be defined as portable direct fire individual or crew-served weapons used primarily for anti-personnel operations"  This included pistols, revolvers, rifles, and machineguns (SMG, LMG, MMG, and HMG).

Ref.  Handbook of Light Weapons. RMCS Shrivenham, UK.  1994.

 

[Michael OLeary]

When do small arms stop being small arms?

When Chuck Norris uses them.    ;D

 

[Trooper Hale]

And there we have it! Michael O'Leary strikes again with what is now my defination of "Small Arms".
AWESOME!