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Wondering if anyone has any links to places you can pick up some ballistic ear plugs/protection?
Where to buy ballistic ear protection/plugs?
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If you are in the military and need them, they will be provided. Ususally nothing fancy but they're free and will meet all the requirements. If they break, get a new pair.
If you want a useable cheap pair try Canadian Tire or Home Hardware.
If you have some cash to spend, try a pair Peltors with the noise cancellation hardware from a safety supply company. I think mine are Peltor 6S or something like that and I can stand next to a running APC and hear people talking 30 feet away. Over a hundred bucks though.
If you want a useable cheap pair try Canadian Tire or Home Hardware.
If you have some cash to spend, try a pair Peltors with the noise cancellation hardware from a safety supply company. I think mine are Peltor 6S or something like that and I can stand next to a running APC and hear people talking 30 feet away. Over a hundred bucks though.
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tannerthehammer,
The basic ear plugs work well when they are used properly and you should always keep a pair in your kit.
While, I salute you for taking care and becoming informed of what you should be doing for hearing protection in the artillery, I am wondering if you may be a bit over cautious about this topic? I mean, when you go to bars/concerts, do you wear ear protection while you are there? Do you listen to loud music in your vehicle?
Cheers,
The basic ear plugs work well when they are used properly and you should always keep a pair in your kit.
While, I salute you for taking care and becoming informed of what you should be doing for hearing protection in the artillery, I am wondering if you may be a bit over cautious about this topic? I mean, when you go to bars/concerts, do you wear ear protection while you are there? Do you listen to loud music in your vehicle?
Cheers,
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Gunner said:
At least in my car and at a bar with loud music I have a choice as to whether or not I have to subject myself to it....So if I am in the military and have no choice that is what worries me...My hearing is forever and the military may not be...
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Yes you do have the option. Don't join. You think you've got it bad? I'm around jet engines (one of the loudest sounds on the earth) all day and in the 3 years that I've been on the flight line with jet engines running, there hasn't been a single point of my hearing range that has dropped from what it was before I hit the flight line. I'm required to have a hearing test every year. Foam earplugs do the trick when walking by aircraft running on the ramp and I wear my helmet sans earplugs while flying.
I think you're taking this a little too far.
I think you're taking this a little too far.
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Agree...you should try being outside the Aurora when the APU is running !!!!!!
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Are you fly-boys not supplied with peltor headsets?
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My point is that if there is a way for me not to subject myself to unnecessary hearing damage then I am gonna do it...I have talked to alot of gunners and most if not ALL say they have some sort of hearing damage from the guns...I want to smartly avoid this if possible...
As I'm sure there are many other trades whose personel are subjected to loud sounds and they too lose their hearing such as air force or even infantry from the machine guns...Maybe its time the CF took another look at this issue and address it more effectively in my opinion...
As I'm sure there are many other trades whose personel are subjected to loud sounds and they too lose their hearing such as air force or even infantry from the machine guns...Maybe its time the CF took another look at this issue and address it more effectively in my opinion...
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Britney Spears said:
Won't fit under my flying helmet. Our helmets are Gentex SPH-5's (except ours are green) and they have an integrated headset in them. They're quite good. As for active noise cancellation, I don't think that's approved for use in military aircraft. Certainly not in ones that require you to wear a helmet at all times, ie helos and jets.
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And the CF has. Earplugs are supplied by the handful if you want them, it's your choice to wear them. If you don't then too bad, they were supplied.
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In fact, the minimum noise rating for CF ear plugs has been raised in recent years to offer better protection.
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I get the impression you don't think the CF takes safety very seriously at all. I assure you they do, but its up to you to bring safety infractions or concerns to your immediate supervisor so those issues can be addressed.
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As I alluded to in another post on this subject, there are a good set of plugs recommended over on Lightfighter by guys coming back from the Sandbox. They give you the hearing protection from the loud bangs but allow you to hear the things you need to hear, like you Section Commander telling you to move your ass....
http://www.aosafety.com/aosafety.com/shooters/products/ear_03.htm
Cost about 10 bucks, but may be worth the investment when you get on ops and need total situational awareness.
http://www.aosafety.com/aosafety.com/shooters/products/ear_03.htm
Cost about 10 bucks, but may be worth the investment when you get on ops and need total situational awareness.
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Ex-Dragoon said:
He's starting to sound like one of those " the CF owes me something" kinda guys !!
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tannerthehammer said:
Qualify that statement with some experience with problems of noise around CF vehicles or weapons - others who do the job day-in and day-out say its fine; if you're not going to listen to what they have to say, then what the hell are you posting here for? :
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No kidding - not even in and he's making demands....
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Inch, aesop:
Excuse my ignorance, but I am under the impression that the noise isn't so bad inside the aircraft, and the noise was an issue when you're milling around outside the plane, and also for ground crews. If so, active noise cancellation seems to make sense.
Excuse my ignorance, but I am under the impression that the noise isn't so bad inside the aircraft, and the noise was an issue when you're milling around outside the plane, and also for ground crews. If so, active noise cancellation seems to make sense.
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Infanteer said:Qualify that statement with some experience with problems of noise around CF vehicles or weapons - others who do the job day-in and day-out say its fine; if you're not going to listen to what they have to say, then what the heck are you posting here for? :
No kidding - not even in and he's making demands....
Some people just think they know better then those that work with it everyday. :
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Britney Spears said:
I cant speak for the sea king..but inside the aurora, its still very noisy.
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PS: I forgot to include the link to this thread (which you may have to sign-up to read) - very informative overview of tactical hearing protection:
http://lightfighter.net/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/9046084761/m/9541006711/r/3231013811#3231013811
http://lightfighter.net/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/9046084761/m/9541006711/r/3231013811#3231013811
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I rodded around in AEV and AVLB for a few (okay, quite a few) years. The worst noise threat came not from the power pack, but the white noise of the ICS. At the end of a trace, my head would be ringing for hours. Those little foamy earplugs helped with that. Off topic, but I just felt like jumping in ;D
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Britney Spears said:
It depends on the aircraft and where you are in relation to the engines. In the Sea King we sit right below them and we have windows all around us, the two side ones can open so there's not a whole lot of difference between standing beside the window or sitting inside the cockpit. We do hot fuels (refuelling with the engines running and rotor turning) and we also do hot crew changes prior to or after refuelling. Walking by the aircraft is probably worse since you're walking by the exhaust and that's where most of the noise comes from, if you could even say that since the entire helicopter is pretty loud.
You're required to wear a helmet when walking to and from a running aircraft with visor down or goggles on for the ground guys. So we're stuck with the helmets, and to be honest, they're quite good and I've heard of only one hearing problem since I've been flying for the CF.
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