Would you consider leaving the CF and joining another country's Defence Force

[1feral1]

Can you, and are you willing to fight under another nation's flag, put that country first and foremost, and having Canada ride the back seat?

Pros of leaving Canada:

A new life and a fresh start

Dual citizenship

Adventure, and make new friends

New country, traditions and customs

Deployments in places where Canada is not involved

Opposite sex a new challenge

See and experience new things

Cons:

Long laspes in visiting home

Homesickness - I still get it the odd time

Missing important family occasions, including funerals and weddings, Christmas etc

Farewells to family and friends, and yes pets too

 

[bartbandyrfc]

Yes, almost did.  The period was just after the referendum, and I was seriously pissed off about the strife in my nation.

The decision was whether to go fly for the RAAF or stay in Canada.  It was one or the other.  Canada is a great country, but I felt it was populated by spoiled brats durig this period.  It was also in the midst of the "decade of darkness".  Oz seemed to be the solution. Commonwealth nation, similar outlook, similar QoL, and less PC'ness.  I decided to stay, in part because of family, in part because I thought it couldn't get worse.

It did get worse, but now it's prety good again.

BB

 

[Mike Baker]

Well, even though I am not even in yet, I do think that it would be intresting to go the way you did Wes.

As of now, my heart and loyalty belongs to my nation of Canada, and I will always have the deepest respect for her, and I hope that she doesn't do anything to make me change that.

But, it would be very intresting to see what it is like in another country's Military, such as OZ. Would like to know a bit more if your willing to tell me, Wes


Baker

 

[aesop081]

Several individuals in CYZX have recently chosen to leave for the RAAF.........I have to admit, i thought about it too.

 

[RangerRay]

Although I'm not thinking about it now, when I was younger I did consider joining another Commonwealth army.  (UK, Australia, New Zealand).  

Back in my early 20s when I was in the Reserves, I learned that it would have been relatively to join the British Army.  Had I known that out of high school, I probably would have tried joining them.

After visiting New Zealand a few years ago, I did seriously consider moving there, and joining their reserves would have been interesting.

In the end, it all came down to leaving friends, family, beautiful British Columbia, etc...  8)

 

[X-mo-1979]

Really joining the army for me wasn't a patriotic thing at all.Not much to do with the flag,or country.Just wanted to be a soldier.

And now after having a family my other motivating factor is pay.

I'm a soldier for money and little else.

So yes I would go join another army if it benefited me.

 

[Proud_Newfoundlander]

I dont know to be honest. It depends on the situation. I view myself as a newfoundland nationalist, and allthough I'm really pissed off at the way we're treated in confederation, and the supposed reason Canada wanted us in. Canada has done some rather respectable things though, and her military is usually in the right place for the right reason. So, my tie may not be as strong. However, if another country was being invaded by a force who wished to implement views contrary to democraxcy and freesom, say a fascist/socialist state, and Canada wasnt involved, then yeah Id go and join, probably more if I had family/ancestry from the area.

There are also some extremely unlikely situations where I would consider it.

 

[X-mo-1979]

I dont know to be honest. It depends on the situation. I view myself as a newfoundland nationalist, that I'm allthough really pissed off at the way we're treated in confederation, and the supposed reason Canada wanted us in. Canada has done some rather respectable things though, and her military is usually in the right place for the right reason. So, my tie may not be as strong. However, if another country was being invaded by a force who wished to implement views contrary to democraxcy and freesom, say a fascist/socialist state, and Canada wasnt involved, then yeah Id go and join, probably more if I had family/ancestry from the area.

There are also some extremely unlikely situations where I would consider it.

Yawn get over it.Granddad did.

 

[Proud_Newfoundlander]

Yawn get over it.Granddad did.

W/E...

 

[Mike Baker]

I dont know to be honest. It depends on the situation. I view myself as a Newfoundland nationalist, and allthough I'm really pissed off at the way we're treated in confederation, and the supposed reason Canada wanted us in. Canada has done some rather respectable things though, and her military is usually in the right place for the right reason. So, my tie may not be as strong. However, if another country was being invaded by a force who wished to implement views contrary to democraxcy and freesom, say a fascist/socialist state, and Canada wasnt involved, then yeah Id go and join, probably more if I had family/ancestry from the area.

There are also some extremely unlikely situations where I would consider it.

Well, I love my Newfoundland more then most, but, I am a Canadian, first and formost. Yet, I still love my province, we may not have had things go in our way, but, we cannot change history.

W/E...

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Let's not ruin a good thread.

Baker

 

[Proud_Newfoundlander]

Not my intent to ruin a good topic, just brushing it off, and moving on

Another topic can be started on confederation/provinces

 

[Mike Baker]

Well, still, its somewhat like Quebec is, and we are the recent signing on the team, so its understandable we're the most reluctant to be caled Canadian over a Newfoundlander. first I see it as more a tachnicalitytechnicality, like for me personally I'm Canadian, but "Canadian" (says with passion). I'm just saying I don't like they way Canada views us, and I essentially want more autonomy for my province. I don't want to be viewed as some crackpot gerry boyle type character (uyou remember him don't you). I know its history, but as its said, history bites.

I hope you understand

Back to the topic

Oh of course I understand. Yet, I still deem myself a Canadian, and a Newfoundlander. Even if we did join into Canada late, we are still Canadians. But I don't think that we should get any more respect then, say, PEI, we are all a part of Canada, no one should have more respect then others.

I think that if most people here thought that Canada was screwing over Newfoundland, one would assume that there would be more people who would want us to leave this great nation of ours (i.e. like a 'Free Newfoundland' Party).

Sorry Mods, had to get that out.

Now back on topic.

Baker

 

[aesop081]

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[RTaylor]

I'll get us back on topic :

So since we're a commonwealth nation, we can join the militaries of the other commonwealth nations without many real issues?

 

[Proud_Newfoundlander]

It depends what commonwealth country. Like we're all becoming different and similar, but NZ, AUS, UK seem to be the main three. I dont think I would want to fight for NZ, because they dont have much of a military, no fighter capability, and im not sure they have tanks

 

[1feral1]

Some red tape, I allowed a year, and get a CTC of your service record in its entirety.

 

[RTaylor]

I wonder if they ride kiwi's into battle...  ;D

 

[Old Sweat]

The Kiwis do not have to apologize for their military record in any of the wars of the 20th century.

 

[1feral1]

I know they have LAVs, not a real Air Force, blew off their A4 Skyhawks a while back.

Ground wise, trained with them, lots of Territorials, seemed switched on. Ran into many in Feb where we had an exchange for a few weeks.

Do't know much about their Navy either.

I reckon they are tenacious though, its in the blood.

 

[RTaylor]

I'd love to go there sometime, got some blood there from a few generations back.