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UN scrambling for force to stop Congo bloodbath
UNITED NATIONS - As thousands fled renewed fighting yesterday between ethnic militias in northeastern Democratic Republic of Congo, Canada said it will consider providing troops for a possible UN intervention force.
 
One wonders if our esteemed PM and his cronies posses basic math skills?

"X" number of soldiers of divided by "Y" of commitments equals way too much for the CF to take on!

Then again considering spending priorities, budgets, deficits, and debt, and a billion here a billion there tossed away I think I just answered my own question.
 
You‘re forgetting what "consider" means to Crouton. They‘ll consider getting new helicopters, for example...and consider, and consider....

Doesn‘t cost anything to consider. Although, Cretin has a lot of time invested in Africa these days. Likes to give them money....who knows?
 
I think if we could, it would be a good idea to go to the Congo. There is a nation that really needs some attention, not that Afganistan doesn‘t, but might be nice to actually get some use out of the green cadpats, eh?
 
yes, because the whole TW CaDPat thing in the desert doesnt work to well. I can just see one of the taliban wake up one morning and go, "that‘s funny, did someone put new turf in for a lawn?"
 
My Father served inthe Congo in the 60s. So if they do, I for one would like to go.
 
They‘ll consider getting new helicopters, for example...and consider, and consider....
Doesn‘t cost anything to consider.
Are you serious ??? The last time they "considered" helicopters, it cost us half a billion $$$ to cancel...
This will probably end like Rwanda: by the time they put the force together and deploy it, half a million people will have been killed. Then our boys will go in and pick up bodies (or what‘s left of them)
Be careful what you wish for...
 
Jungle,

You forgot the best part. We‘ll also get there just in time to be blamed for not doing anything about said massacre by some Eurotrash left wing press.

Some ijit at NDHQ would also screw up things and send all the green cadpat uniforms to Kabul, leaving only the desert ones for any contingent in the Congo.
 
From the National Post website this morning.
World ignores Congo bloodbath, UN says
UNITED NATIONS - Senior United Nations officials yesterday lashed out at world powers for focusing on Iraq while ignoring the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a long-running conflict that has already killed millions and holds the potential for still greater bloodshed.
 
I can somehow foresee Libs jumping on this mission to appease ‘save the world, but through UN‘ folks. And since it‘ll be a peacekeeping operation, it‘ll appeal to many canadians.
 
How about this:
The p.m. has taken Africa as a personal crusade. The Congo is a French speaking country and the p.m. has met some of the players at the Francophone meetings. It was a Canadian general in Rwanda that begged for extra troops to stop the genocide and he was ignored and we know
what happened. So I think they will send the guys from Quebec who are supposed to go to Afghanistan (same language coincidently) and by the time the roto in February is due to go, the guys from LFWA will have been back the required 1 year and can go back to Afghanistan with heavy reserve
augmentation.
 
Where does the United States stand on all this? Surely if they can afford to send 250,000 troops to Iraq they wouldn‘t have any problem sending 500 or so to the Congo?
 
Ugh, why can‘t the Prime Minister have a better legacy than Africa. It seems the PM is willing to go out of his way to help people that have no bearing on Canada, yet he won‘t even help his own people in the Canadian Forces.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3042983.stm

Moves to end DR Congo clashes


The French may lead a European force to the area
A small advance party of French military observers is in the north-east Democratic Republic of Congo investigating the possible deployment of a multinational force.
Hundreds of people have died in recent violence while civilians fleeing into Uganda have alleged widespread atrocities committed by ethnic militias.

United Kingdom officials say they are considering contributing to the force and are urgently seeking further details from the UN.


United Nations officials in the town of Bunia have warned of the possibility of genocide if a large force of experienced peacekeepers is not brought in swiftly.

The BBC‘s Ishbel Matheson in Bunia says the health clinic next to the United Nations compound is crammed with people suffering the most appalling injuries.

She met one woman who had half her hand chopped off by a machete and saw her children killed in front of her.

Another man had a bandage round his neck after his throat had been slashed. Many told her they want an international force to come in and put an end to their suffering.

EU force?

The European Union said on Monday that it was considering a UN request to send peacekeeping troops.

UNREST IN ITURI REGION


Fleeing from horror
Q&A: DR Congo‘s latest flashpoint
In pictures

France has been asked to lead this force and provide a battalion with up to 1,000 troops.


But France insists that other nations join the force and the deployment be for a limited period.

British officials say what is being talked about is a short-term operation to fill the gap until South African and Bangladeshi troops arrive in July or August to reinforce the existing UN contingent.

There are about 700 Uruguayan soldiers in Bunia, but they have neither the mandate nor the numbers to stop the fighting or prevent atrocities against civilians.

UN force
The UN troops have been pulled back into Bunia for their own protection after the killing of two soldiers some 70 km north of Bunia.

A truce was signed by the rival militias on Friday, and large scale fighting stopped on Sunday in Bunia.


The UN has been unable to halt clashes in the area

The clashes erupted soon after the 9,000 strong Ugandan forces withdrew from Bunia about two weeks ago, as part of a wider peace deal.

Some 20,000 Congolese civilians have fled to Uganda since then, according to the UN refugee agency.

During the exodus from Ituri, some refugees were protected by withdrawing Ugandan troops, who completed their pull-out from DR Congo on Monday.

"We would all have been massacred on the way if it weren‘t for the large numbers of Ugandan soldiers," one refugee told the BBC‘s Will Ross in western Uganda.

Hemas, traditionally cattle-raisers, and Lendus, predominantly farmers, have been in conflict for centuries for land and other resources in the area.

The rivalry has become more bloody because Ituri province around Bunia is rich with gold.

Neighbouring nations that became involved in wars in the DR Congo in the 1990s - Uganda, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia - had armed both sides as proxy militias.

Some 50,000 people have died and some half a million people displaced since 1999.

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WTF? UN has troops in place already and they aren‘t doing anything because of no mandate?

How about giving those Uruguyans a mandate so that they can start the work before the French and the rest come?

This is just stupid.
 
It‘s all politics.

Peacekeepers never has any real power, as shown by the ones already there. Give them peacemaking abilities and things change. They could be doing some things to make it better there before other UN officials arrive. And that will take a while. Look at our governments response for troops. "Uhh..we haev to consider this seriously. We‘ll call you in a month."

Same goes for other countries in Europe. France won‘t go without other counties supporting them. It‘s rediculious.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...ANN/TPNational/

Canada may send transport planes to help in Congo


By JEFF SALLOT
With reports from Daniel Leblanc and Agence France-Presse


UPDATED AT 1:04 PM EDT Friday, May. 23, 2003


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OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Jean Chrétien says Canada has a moral obligation to help defuse the Congo crisis, but Ottawa can make only a modest military contribution to a proposed peacekeeping mission.

That contribution may be two military transport planes, Defence Minister John McCallum said.

The continuing ethnic violence in the Democratic Republic of Congo was a major topic during talks yesterday between Mr. Chrétien and visiting French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

France is calling for a strengthened United Nations peacekeeping force in the war-ravaged African nation and already has a military reconnaissance team on the ground in remote Ituri province where at least 310 people have been killed in recent fighting.

"Under the UN we are prepared to set up an international force" to try to bring peace, Mr. Raffarin said at a news conference.

France has promised up to 1,000 combat soldiers if other countries join the mission.

Mr. Raffarin noted there are many technical problems making it difficult to get military forces and supplies in and out of the affected area in northeastern Congo.

Mr. McCallum said Canada is considering equipping the UN mission with two C-130 military transport planes to ferry troops and supplies from France to the conflict zone in Congo.

The C-130 can land on short, rough airstrips like those in remote areas of Africa.

Some military analysts, including retired general Roméo Dallaire, who commanded the ill-fated UN mission in neighbouring Rwanda in 1994, say Canada should send ground troops to Congo even if that means pulling soldiers out of missions elsewhere to send them to Africa.

Mr. Chrétien appeared sympathetic to the idea, saying, "We have problems all over the world and Africa is always neglected."

Asked why he would even consider taking on a new commitment in Congo when the Canadian Forces are already stretched thin, Mr. Chrétien said, "We have an obligation. It is a very sad situation in Congo."

He acknowledged that any Canadian contribution to a UN force "will be a small contribution."

Canada is "prepared to participate under the aegis of the UN" and would collaborate with France, he said.

Mr. Chrétien did not indicate when he might make a final decision on what Canada can offer the mission.

Germany pledged it would help finance a UN mission, but Berlin did not say whether it would send troops.

The UN has about 700 peacekeepers in the region, but their mandate and numbers are not sufficient to contain the violence.

French and Canadian diplomats have been discussing the Congo crisis for several months. Raymond Chrétien, Canada‘s ambassador to Paris and the Prime Minister‘s nephew, is the former UN special envoy for that part of the world and was a key figure in Ottawa‘s decision in 1996 to lead a UN mission to help Rwandan refugees.

UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan appealed this month to member countries to contribute troops to a much more robust mission for Ituri, where more than 50,000 have been killed in the past four years.

More than 350,000 civilians have been forced to flee for their lives since the newest wave of bloodshed swept across the region this month.

Mr. Chrétien and Mr. Raffarin said they were pleased the UN is going to play an important role in the reconstruction of Iraq following the Security Council decision yesterday to formally lift economic sanctions.

Mr. Chrétien said others will have to judge whether Washington‘s justification for invading Iraq -- the elimination of weapons of mass destruction -- is valid.

U.S. troops haven‘t found those weapons yet, Mr. Chrétien noted, saying he had argued for more time for UN weapons inspectors to do their work.
 
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