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It seems that toxic leadership is no longer tolerated.
Wasn’t expecting that...good poops and working the Reefer Techs...After reading this article by the Colonel concerning salad and field exercises
After reading this article by the Colonel concerning salad and field exercises
Oh! Mah! Gawd!
This reminds me of a time when my battery was running a base camp in the middle of the summer supporting a big firefighting effort in NW Manitoba. Every day we fed them a nutritious breakfast and supper in camp but basically sent some 450 firefighters out to the line with a box lunch with four sandwiches, a half dozen donuts and a six pack of Coke plus numerous jerry cans of water. Our Dept of Natural Resources advisors--who did this all the time--made it clear that anything less than this and they'd be losing people like crazy. These guys were paid casual labour but basically volunteers and not employees. One of my biggest jobs was sourcing soft drinks and donuts at zero dark thirty every morning from the few small grocery stores and donut shops in the region who pretty much baked all night to have them ready so that we could distribute them at breakfast.
About half way through the tour we were visited by the food services officer from our home base (who also happened to be the wife of our CO) who advised me quite seriously that we needed to find a way to incorporate salads into the box lunches, replace the soft drinks with 1% milk and cut the donuts down to one. Since I had no intention of changing anything (and I pretty much figured the CO didn't want me to either) I didn't even bother asking how we were supposed to get fresh salad and cold milk out to the fire line in the middle of the forest.
I can just see this good idea fairy wandering the halls of his brigade and unit lines sprinkling them with his wonderous thoughts and hammering anyone who doesn't jump on board with alacrity.
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Salads and milk - you would have had zero crews to feed on day two. In addition to sourcing, the meals you provided also needed no utensils. Salad as a finger food gets messy.
Oh! Mah! Gawd!
This reminds me of a time when my battery was running a base camp in the middle of the summer supporting a big firefighting effort in NW Manitoba. Every day we fed them a nutritious breakfast and supper in camp but basically sent some 450 firefighters out to the line with a box lunch with four sandwiches, a half dozen donuts and a six pack of Coke plus numerous jerry cans of water. Our Dept of Natural Resources advisors--who did this all the time--made it clear that anything less than this and they'd be losing people like crazy. These guys were paid casual labour but basically volunteers and not employees. One of my biggest jobs was sourcing soft drinks and donuts at zero dark thirty every morning from the few small grocery stores and donut shops in the region who pretty much baked all night to have them ready so that we could distribute them at breakfast.
About half way through the tour we were visited by the food services officer from our home base (who also happened to be the wife of our CO) who advised me quite seriously that we needed to find a way to incorporate salads into the box lunches, replace the soft drinks with 1% milk and cut the donuts down to one. Since I had no intention of changing anything (and I pretty much figured the CO didn't want me to either) I didn't even bother asking how we were supposed to get fresh salad and cold milk out to the fire line in the middle of the forest.
I can just see this good idea fairy wandering the halls of his brigade and unit lines sprinkling them with his wonderous thoughts and hammering anyone who doesn't jump on board with alacrity.
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A couple of years ago, the big fires in BC, threatened my cousins area, the men all went onto the fireline and the women went to the community hall and ran a kitchen 24/7 to feed the fireline and emergency services in the area including the BC Hydro linecrews. I have heard from various sources how much a place to rest, grab a coffee, eat and clean up was appreciated. None of it was planned that way and much of the food came out of peoples pockets/ranches.Oh! Mah! Gawd!
This reminds me of a time when my battery was running a base camp in the middle of the summer supporting a big firefighting effort in NW Manitoba. Every day we fed them a nutritious breakfast and supper in camp but basically sent some 450 firefighters out to the line with a box lunch with four sandwiches, a half dozen donuts and a six pack of Coke plus numerous jerry cans of water. Our Dept of Natural Resources advisors--who did this all the time--made it clear that anything less than this and they'd be losing people like crazy. These guys were paid casual labour but basically volunteers and not employees. One of my biggest jobs was sourcing soft drinks and donuts at zero dark thirty every morning from the few small grocery stores and donut shops in the region who pretty much baked all night to have them ready so that we could distribute them at breakfast.
About half way through the tour we were visited by the food services officer from our home base (who also happened to be the wife of our CO) who advised me quite seriously that we needed to find a way to incorporate salads into the box lunches, replace the soft drinks with 1% milk and cut the donuts down to one. Since I had no intention of changing anything (and I pretty much figured the CO didn't want me to either) I didn't even bother asking how we were supposed to get fresh salad and cold milk out to the fire line in the middle of the forest.
I can just see this good idea fairy wandering the halls of his brigade and unit lines sprinkling them with his wonderous thoughts and hammering anyone who doesn't jump on board with alacrity.
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Yeah, fire camps/lines love things like salmonella turning effectiveness into mush.
I have not once ever even seen salads on a fireline. Water, salted drinks/mixes, coffee, sandwiches, sweets, and some stuff you can throw into your pack like protein bars.
Bulkier meals were for gathering areas - pizzas being pretty easy and popular.