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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
Curious, what numbers of those are with F Ech units now I wonder?

And, in numbers to be tactically relevant and supported thru the life of the system?
 
C20 Medium calibre sniper system, C21 multi calibre sniper system, C19 Rifle for the rangers, sole source additional LAVS and ACSV, replacement pistol finally selected, new medium shelter system, landing craft for use with the new AORs.

Just because they don't dot page 1 of the Toronto Star, doesn't mean nothing is happening
have they ordered replacements for the materiel that has been shipped east. and speaking of that I noticed the big photo spread covering shipping the first tank, did they expedite the remaining three or are they being loaded onto some freighter for delivery sometime in June
 
have they ordered replacements for the materiel that has been shipped east. and speaking of that I noticed the big photo spread covering shipping the first tank, did they expedite the remaining three or are they being loaded onto some freighter for delivery sometime in June
There are definitely plans in the works to deal with the issue of replacement of what was sent, nothing public yet though, though the minister has hinted after the 24th we may hear something.
 
Curious, what numbers of those are with F Ech units now I wonder?

And, in numbers to be tactically relevant and supported thru the life of the system?
C21

C20 roughly the same for Sniper dets and SoF only so we do not need alot.

Shelter system - over 1400 systems

 
have they ordered replacements for the materiel that has been shipped east. and speaking of that I noticed the big photo spread covering shipping the first tank, did they expedite the remaining three or are they being loaded onto some freighter for delivery sometime in June
the 4 tanks are delivered according to MND twitter
 
It's just precious how people can find time to trouble themselves to write news articles about 4 tanks, when the main event is a war which consumes vehicles by several orders of magnitude more. Canada is such a small, small country.
 
It's just precious how people can find time to trouble themselves to write news articles about 4 tanks, when the main event is a war which consumes vehicles by several orders of magnitude more. Canada is such a small, small country.
Well, writers from a country will write about what their country is contributing. Even if most Canadians may not care about the war’s day-to-day happenings, they obviously do care whether we send stuff there.

The MSM isn’t generally in the business of writing things that they don’t think people will read.
 
C21

C20 roughly the same for Sniper dets and SoF only so we do not need alot.

Shelter system - over 1400 systems


How many of these are in service now? Any?

Maybe I’m cynical, but these are routine and while necessary, it comes across as similar to me announcing a purchase of new underwear if my wife asks me about our mutual fund growth over the last quarter. Necessary but…not something expected to impress people.

I had to chuckle at the part in the pic. The obsession with anything HQ lives on!! 🙂

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Leslie, McKay, Collenette on procurement. Leslie very critical of his previous employer.


Thanks for posting that. I have to say that after the beasting that Leslie gave "the current government" I was starting to feel sorry for them. I also developed a new appreciation for David Collenette. It was a pleasure to listen to three "adults".

Please let there be somebody listening.
 
Leslie, McKay, Collenette on procurement. Leslie very critical of his previous employer.

Leslie, the guy who once told us the pistol replacement was immenent with a machine pistol, circa 2009. :rolleyes:

C20 Medium calibre sniper system, C21 multi calibre sniper system, C19 Rifle for the rangers, sole source additional LAVS and ACSV, replacement pistol finally selected, new medium shelter system, landing craft for use with the new AORs.

Just because they don't dot page 1 of the Toronto Star, doesn't mean nothing is happening
Asterix, AOPS delivery, JSS continuation, ESSM2, Nanisivik (finally)

The big procurement machine once it gets rolling, generally keeps rolling.
 
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Think of where the Navy/CCG/DFO fleets could have been if we kept St John Shipbuilding and used it as a base to implement and expand the NSP. I'd like to know who dropped the ball on this, the RCN, DND, TB, PMO? All of Canada?
 
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Think of where the Navy/CCG/DFO fleets could have been if we kept St John Shipbuilding and used it as a base to implement and expand the NSP. I'd like to know who dropped the ball on this, the RCN, DND, TB, PMO? All of Canada?
the yard is still there and could be repurposed but I seem to recall a deal whereby the feds bailed them out but the yard was to close immediately on completion of the work underway. Very hazy memory, a lot of beer, a lot of whiskey and a lot of time has passed since then
 
the yard is still there and could be repurposed but I seem to recall a deal whereby the feds bailed them out but the yard was to close immediately on completion of the work underway. Very hazy memory, a lot of beer, a lot of whiskey and a lot of time has passed since then
Our office is discussing this article today. Here is my reply to one of our gang talking about "room for growth"

Quote “Considering we plan for ships to have a 30 year service life but then go on to drive them for half a century”

This is an unsustainable policy. You’d think that since we have spent all this money initiating the National Shipbuilding Strategy (or whatever its called now) that we’d plan for a 25-30 year lifecycle and forego the major refit at 20 years and just sell the bloody things and build new?



Anyone remember that place we poured billions into in the 80’s? Are we going to do that again?



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I’ll just shut up now, and go back to grumbling.
Posted this a year ago regarding St John Shipbuilding
 
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