Global Warming/Climate Change Super Thread

[Kirkhill]

I wonder if this snow will melt before next winter?

California storm could bring 12 feet of snow to Sierra Nevada mountains

A blizzard warning is in effect in California's Sierra Nevada mountains as a dangerous storm slams the region.

abcnews.go.com

California's snow-stranded residents need food, plows, help

Many have been trapped in their homes for a week

spectrumnews1.com

Reflected sunlight and the latent heat of ice will reduce the temperature of the environment in the mountains meaning it will take longer for the snow to melt.

 

[Quirky]

I wonder if this snow will melt before next winter?

California storm could bring 12 feet of snow to Sierra Nevada mountains

A blizzard warning is in effect in California's Sierra Nevada mountains as a dangerous storm slams the region.

abcnews.go.com

California's snow-stranded residents need food, plows, help

Many have been trapped in their homes for a week

spectrumnews1.com

Reflected sunlight and the latent heat of ice will reduce the temperature of the environment in the mountains meaning it will take longer for the snow to melt.

All part of the climate change crisis!

 

[Fishbone Jones]

75-90 gallons per hour (375-450 litres), depending on the model

 

[OldSolduer]

All part of the climate change crisis!

Don't send anyone named Donner there....

 

[Brad Sallows]

Reflected sunlight and the latent heat of ice will reduce the temperature of the environment in the mountains meaning it will take longer for the snow to melt.

That's helpful if it has the effect of allocating the accumulated water supply more consistently.

 

[Kirkhill]

That's helpful if it has the effect of allocating the accumulated water supply more consistently.

One of the interesting points of investigation is what it actually took to create the great ice-sheets. It is known that there is a time when they were. There was also a time when they weren't. That means that they disappeared. It also means that there were times when they appeared. What gives birth to an ice age?

I don't think the IPCC has fully wrapped their heads around that yet.

PS - if I understand the cyclical theory of changes then I think we are past due for a reglaciation.

 

[daftandbarmy]

One of the interesting points of investigation is what it actually took to create the great ice-sheets. It is known that there is a time when they were. There was also a time when they weren't. That means that they disappeared. It also means that there were times when they appeared. What gives birth to an ice age?

I don't think the IPCC has fully wrapped their heads around that yet.

PS - if I understand the cyclical theory of changes then I think we are past due for a reglaciation.

Welcome to the Holocene .... only the latest of many Inter-glacial epochs

"The most recent glacial period occurred between about 120,000 and 11,500 years ago. Since then, Earth has been in an interglacial period called the Holocene. Glacial periods are colder, dustier, and generally drier than interglacial periods. These glacial–interglacial cycles are apparent in many marine and terrestrial paleoclimate records from around the world."

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/1%20Glacial-Interglacial%20Cycles-Final-OCT%202021.pdf

 

[Good2Golf]

75-90 gallons per hour (375-450 litres), depending on the model

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I’ll take the 994 over an EV, thanks!

 

[Halifax Tar]

Excellent article

The Carbon tax was never worth the cost - The Hub

Canada should pause increases in the carbon tax permanently and have a serious discussion about eliminating the hodgepodge of rules and regulations that are harming the efficiency and competitiveness of the economy.

thehub.ca

 

[RangerRay]

Yeah, I just had to replace my furnace. There is no way that rebate will pay for that, or the fuel in our two fuel efficient cars.

 

[dimsum]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775276835229896735

 

[Quirky]

The actions of 42million people will not offset, in anyway, what the other 8 BILLION do.

 

[dimsum]

The actions of 42million people will not offset, in anyway, what the other 8 BILLION do.

We’re not the only country to have carbon tax, offsets, or pricing.

Which countries have put a price on carbon?

Putting a price on carbon helps us account for the real costs of fossil fuels in the market. Which countries have a carbon tax or trading system?

ourworldindata.org

 

[Furniture]

We’re not the only country to have carbon tax, offsets, or pricing.

Which countries have put a price on carbon?

Putting a price on carbon helps us account for the real costs of fossil fuels in the market. Which countries have a carbon tax or trading system?

ourworldindata.org

If all the other kids jumped off a cliff, would you?

 

[dimsum]

If all the other kids jumped off a cliff, would you?

If we were the only country doing it, maybe that would give pause. But I guess those countries are also all wrong.

In your situation, if all countries did it then at least some of them weren’t just following the leader. We can barely get everyone to agree on anything - if they did, it would be a goddamn miracle.

So, if something is “too hard” because not enough people are doing it, does it mean we shouldn’t do it either?

To use another analogy, should we not bother with trying to stop crimes because there will always be crime anyway?

 

[Quirky]

We’re not the only country to have carbon tax, offsets, or pricing.

Which countries have put a price on carbon?

Putting a price on carbon helps us account for the real costs of fossil fuels in the market. Which countries have a carbon tax or trading system?

ourworldindata.org

So we’re not the only country thats run by a bunch of idiots who think they can control global weather through taxes. Got it.

 

[daftandbarmy]

If we were the only country doing it, maybe that would give pause. But I guess those countries are also all wrong.

In your situation, if all countries did it then at least some of them weren’t just following the leader. We can barely get everyone to agree on anything - if they did, it would be a goddamn miracle.

So, if something is “too hard” because not enough people are doing it, does it mean we shouldn’t do it either?

To use another analogy, should we not bother with trying to stop crimes because there will always be crime anyway?

Sadly not many countries, especially the largest carbon emitters like China, have a tax (or other disincentives) for carbon.

There isn't alot of discussion about some of the challenges with carbon taxes either, which is par for the course these days, sadly...

What a carbon tax can do and why it cannot do it all​

“The carbon tax on fuel aims to restructure economies by raising the cost of a critical resource- the juice that makes them run. But restructuring takes time as people, capital and other resources do not flow seamlessly into new sectors.”​

What a carbon tax can do and why it cannot do it all

The carbon tax on fuel aims to restructure economies by raising the cost of a critical resource. But restructuring takes time as people, capital and other resources do not flow seamlessly into new sectors.

blogs.worldbank.org

 

[Halifax Tar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775276835229896735

What surprises me is only 77% of the green part think it true. I would have expected near 100%.

My question, is how is this trending across those parties ?

As for climate change, maybe its fatigue but there is nothing we (Canada) can do. So how about we don't make things harder than they have to be, eh ?

 

[Remius]

If we were the only country doing it, maybe that would give pause. But I guess those countries are also all wrong.

In your situation, if all countries did it then at least some of them weren’t just following the leader. We can barely get everyone to agree on anything - if they did, it would be a goddamn miracle.

So, if something is “too hard” because not enough people are doing it, does it mean we shouldn’t do it either?

To use another analogy, should we not bother with trying to stop crimes because there will always be crime anyway?

I am currently in Spain and some of the rules here make the Canadian ones look like child’s play lol.

low emission zones, car bans and extra taxes on anything not electric a moped/scooter or bus. They also have target dates to stop selling combustible engine vehicles but have gone further with a target date that will outright ban them.

 

[YZT580]

one word: lemmings.