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Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

A RegF of 120,000 and an PRes of 100,000 would be the equivalent of two air and around 8 army divisions.
If the force is properly balanced, I don't think we get anywhere near that. For 100K we'd probably get a 3-division corps and some Comm Z troops. And the rest would go to naval and air force formations.
 
It would be a good experiment to pick a reserve unit and deploy it conplete.

No real reason we couldn’t do that. It would need to be done with forethought though.
Identify now that in 2028 Unit X will be deployed on Op Y as roto 28-02.
Give them three years to get ready.
 
It would be a good experiment to pick a reserve unit and deploy it conplete.
Agreed. Start with a full platoon or so and build to sending a whole sub-unit to see what happens.
Only one probably capable of doing that is the QOR, last I checked they were at about 86% TES.
Not necessarily. There's a few reserve units that I think could handle sending a subunit. Personally I'd experiment by sending a full-subunit to Latvia and see what sticks. The armoured echelon in Latvia is already 60-70% reserve so its certainly doable.
 
Fitch? He was RegF and the project's manager from 2001 on - but regardless, I always wondered why there isn't a more traditional project director and project manager relationship for these types of projects. Fitch was described as the project manager with a background as a military engineer with minimal ARes experience (commanding LFWA). I'm hard pressed to see how one could do project direction without a mixed team of RegF and ARes or a project management team without strong RegF and DM staff.

I continue to be adamant that building a strong, viable ARes force will require, in the initial phase, hybridization involving a large commitment of RegF leadership to raise the bar until close to self-sufficiency can be reached. IMHO, self-sufficiency cannot be achieved above the major and MWO level because of the very heavy training and experience time commitment required to reach LCol and CWO rank. There are ways to achieve that, including using a modified Class B service, but fully manned and fully equipped ARes units will need fully trained and full-time leadership.

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Fitch CT'd to the Res F and announced to one and all how Reserve he was (on an annuitant 330 day class B while collecting his pension).
 
And that 86% evaporates when you get those folks with high paying civilian jobs saying "enh, no thanks."

Unless its a mobilization with job protection, they're names on paper.
The NDA requires nothing like job protection or volunteerism. If the GoC places a unit or individual members of the PRes on s31(1) active service or the MND calls them out on s 33(2)(b) service then a name on the enrollment form is enough.

Please stop confusing the CAF's long standing habit of asking for PRes volunteers with the legal obligations accompanying being a member of the PRes. One can argue the political ramification all one wants, but the law is the law.
Fitch CT'd to the Res F and announced to one and all how Reserve he was (on an annuitant 330 day class B while collecting his pension).
:ROFLMAO:

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If the force is properly balanced, I don't think we get anywhere near that. For 100K we'd probably get a 3-division corps and some Comm Z troops. And the rest would go to naval and air force formations.
In keeping with my brilliance as a military planner, I have adopted the Monash model of an army division which limits it to 10,000 all ranks and 2,000 vehicles (which includes all of the division's CSS troops and resources). That leaves 40,000 for the ComZ together with the existing multiple tens of thousands of RegF, Class B and civilian cubicle bunnies. That should be more than enough.

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And that 86% evaporates when you get those folks with high paying civilian jobs saying "enh, no thanks."

Unless its a mobilization with job protection, they're names on paper.
Simple, you issue an OIC activating unit X from Date Y to Date Z for the purpose of Operation Bloggins revenge in Antropia. As per job protection legislation in every province, being a named Operation with set start and end dates they are protected. DND then collects and contacts each employer, or their HR department, and say look bloggins is being called to active duty until this date, they are legally protected, here's the law, and we will be watching.

The problem I see, having lost my job twice before for the military, isnt the lack of rules, its the lack of enforcement, and timely enforcement. Get all your ducks in a row, and make sure employee and employer know they are protected and that they will be pursued if they break the rules.
 
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Bureaucracy still has to work, TB has to do its thing as well
Sure, but if it's going to be some kind of pay raise of x%, and some kind of targeted benefits increase, then should be pretty straightforward to multiply the pay tables by 1.x and pump it out, if it's actually a GoC priority. The ministers, cabinet and TBS president can do that kind of thing pretty easily if they flex their existing legislative authorities, especially now that the supp budget increase got passed by the Senate last week with the $8.4 billion increase for this year's budget.

Talking about Winter (which in GoC terms can be Nov - March) sounds like it's going to be a lot more of a cluster.

Again, this all seems like a self goal, when they could have waited until the bureaucracy was at 90% and then announce some actual details. Now if it's anything less than 20% bump to monthly pay it's going to be a mess, and already going to piss people off by messing around for 3-9 months after an announcement from the MND that said 'immediately'.

If nothing else, starts the new guy off with a negative credibility.

Internally going to take a while for that in year funding bump to get through, but frankly Cinderella funds that run out 31 March showing up in August is half useless, when it still takes 4-6 months to get in contract. Even paying for travel to support projects or ongoing work is still restricted by the artificial travel cap, that has nothing to do with money being available.
 
I've been trying to find historical numbers for the Regular Force. My illustrated history of the Canadian Army tells me that at the end of 1952 the regular army had reached 49,000 while reserves stood at 47,000. Found this link to Stats Can numbers that show what I assume to be Regular Force for all 3 services and has the Army at just under 52,000 in 1962 https://www66.statcan.gc.ca/eng/1988/198807190711_p. 21-43.pdf . Interestingly, the 49,000 in 1952 was for a field force of 5 brigade groups. A decade later the Army was almost 3,000 larger but for a field force of 4 brigade groups. Not sure what that implies when it comes to the current discussion of significant increases in personnel except that even with an armed forces probably at their peace time peak in size we were still thinking in terms of brigades, not divisions (I believe that by '62 1 CDN Division was no longer a thing). Note also the 21,500 in the RCN and 53,000 in the RCAF in '62. As a sidebar, the 1962 numbers are for a population less than half of what we have now, albeit one that was probably much more connected to our military given the number of veterans still living (and serving).
 
At a higher level, here’s a bit of a profile of the former fighter pilot tasked with fixing defence procurement - good luck, buddy!
 
The FP platoon for 25-01 was built around 8 CH. The WO was the RSS, they obviously had to bring in guys from outside as well. They ran into some issues with units not understanding these guys doing class B work up weren’t just a new labour pool.
We just had the same issue with OP cadence, tried to pull people in to help count warehouse stock. Was shut down pretty quick once discovered
 
In keeping with my brilliance as a military planner, I have adopted the Monash model of an army division which limits it to 10,000 all ranks and 2,000 vehicles (which includes all of the division's CSS troops and resources). That leaves 40,000 for the ComZ together with the existing multiple tens of thousands of RegF, Class B and civilian cubicle bunnies. That should be more than enough.

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Thanks to both you and @Infanteer for the reference. Thoroughly enjoyable reading. I wonder how many buns Owen had to dodge in the mess.
 
We just had the same issue with OP cadence, tried to pull people in to help count warehouse stock. Was shut down pretty quick once discovered
I think the idea that these soldiers were not going to be doing weekend exercises after they came back from pre deployment training was especially grating. To a degree I get it, likely the core of the unit was in that platoon, on the other hand you have to manage work load at some point.
 
I think the idea that these soldiers were not going to be doing weekend exercises after they came back from pre deployment training was especially grating. To a degree I get it, likely the core of the unit was in that platoon, on the other hand you have to manage work load at some point.

They were probably pissed because they couldn't make up numbers for a Freedom of the City parade, or something equally 'important' ;)
 
The CDS says...

More soldiers, more money. Canada's top soldier extols benefits of spending boost​


In an interview with The Canadian Press Saturday, Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jennie Carignan said work is underway to figure out how to distribute the almost 20 per cent pay hikes promised by Defence Minister David McGuinty.

"It's an envelope that will be adapting to what we need. Some of it will be a pay increase, some of it will be for benefit allowances for specific trades or specific functions," Carignan said.

"Yes, there will be a raise this year. Yes, that's the aim so we want everything to be ready for the fall and wintertime."

 
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