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18 Aug 2025: Poilievre/By-election in Battle River–Crowfoot (AB)

So I’ll pose it to you directly: What, specifically, do you think Parliament should be legislating right now? Not what the executive branch ought to be doing, but actual laws that need to be urgently passed on top of C-5 to foster economic growth and resilience? Because that’s what Parliament does. Most of the heavy lifting isn’t them.
I too would like to see this answered. Easy to complain, not easy to critique.
 
He made the grade... as if it was in doubt


PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media. So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters. Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
 
PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media. So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters. Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
But not enough (yet) to make him PM ...

Congrats to PP & Co. - now let's see what his playbook looks like back in the House.
 
PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media. So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters. Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
What media was saying it would be close or he was going to lose? I don’t recall reading that from anyone remotely credible; some examples would be useful. A decisive Poilievre victory seems to be what everyone expected, there was just uncertainty about how commanding the margin would be.
 
PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media. So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters. Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
The result is about what I expected and the margin of victory is close to where I thought it would be.

I also don’t know what (credible) media thought he was going to lose.
 
PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media. So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters. Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
Everyone knew he was going to win. It’s rural Alberta they’ll vote for just about anything labelled conservative, look at trends.
 
We’ll see if PP & Co. have learned theirs this time around, too.

"PP & Co" had record numbers last election, it's the collapse of the NDP and general elbows up idiots and scared seniors who voted for a soft-face Carney. He's turned into much of the same of Trudeau. So disappointing. PP doesn't need to do anything differently next time around, not sure I'd want the basement dweller losers coming out to support the CPC, I'd rather see this country dive deeper into this hole we're in.
 
What media was saying it would be close or he was going to lose? I don’t recall reading that from anyone remotely credible; some examples would be useful. A decisive Poilievre victory seems to be what everyone expected, there was just uncertainty about how commanding the margin would be.
does media and credible belong together these days?
 
PP lives rent free in the heads of Canadian media.
Funny, he hasn't been relevant on anything Tarriff related, NATO/Ukraine related, economic related.... everything has been centered on him getting a seat in the House since he lost his Carleton one...

So much for the last 4 months of media hatchet pieces saying it was going to be close or he might lose, voters in the area hated Poilievre, he can’t connect with voters.
And I wonder how long this honeymoon will last; given how quickly Carleton voters soured to him putting his Prime Ministerial aspirations ahead of being present in the riding.

Poilievre is basically the story of media endlessly claiming he isn’t likable, and yet everyone votes for him behind the scenes.
About that....

In the 2025 by-election for Battle River - Crowfoot:

- Turn out was 58.8% of eligible voters. (There were 85,736 eligible voters in the riding).

- Of that 58.8% turn out, PP got 80.4% votes (40,548)

In the 2025 general election for Battle River- Crowfoot:

-Turn out was 76.49% (65,198) of 85,237 eligible voters

-Damien Kurek got 82% of the vote (53,684)

In the 2025 general election for Carleton:

- Turn out was 81.84% (86,655) of 105,889 total electors

-PP lost with 45.7% of the vote (39,333)

That means he got a lower percentage of eligible electors in Battle River - Crowfoot than he did losing his seat in Carleton. Damien Kurek did far better in the general election, and he didn't have the whole of the CPC apparatus working to ensure his success.

So no. Not everyone is voting for PP; not in Carleton and not in Battle River-Crowfoot.

People couldn't be arsed to vote in a late-summer by-election.

He got his seat, he'll be back in the House in September, conservative pundits sing a chorus of rejoice.

I also see the Liberals being able to leverage this whole debacle when Parliament resumes in the fall.

PP was a good foil to Justin Trudeau. He doesn't have the same kind of footing against this PMO. I await his leadership review in January, as I think his brand of leadership is no longer relevant to the situation.
 
"PP & Co" had record numbers last election, it's the collapse of the NDP and general elbows up idiots and scared seniors who voted for a soft-face Carney. He's turned into much of the same of Trudeau. So disappointing. PP doesn't need to do anything differently next time around, not sure I'd want the basement dweller losers coming out to support the CPC, I'd rather see this country dive deeper into this hole we're in.

I wouldn't want to be the leader of the party that finally beats the LPC in an election. That is going to be a terrible job, of epic proportions. God forbid its minority Gov too.
 
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I wouldnt want to be the leader of the party that finally beats the LPC in an election. That is going to be a terrible job, of epic proportions.
Technically that would be Mark Carney that beat the sitting LPC government in the last election....and I agree he's facing a terrible job of epic proportions! ;)

And while I didn't vote for him or his party I do wish him luck in turning the ship around as quickly as possible unlike those that wish him (and the country as a consequence) to fail out of spite for having the gall to win the election.
 
In the 2025 by-election for Battle River - Crowfoot:

- Turn out was 58.8% of eligible voters. (There were 85,736 eligible voters in the riding).

- Of that 58.8% turn out, PP got 80.4% votes (40,548)
To be fair, given that the last by-election in Alberta (July 2023) only saw something like a 29% turnout, I'm willing to give credit where due and say almost 60% is not bad. In broader perspective, if my math's correct, based on 2023-24 by-election turnouts, average is around 32% (ranging from a low of around 16% to a high of almost 44%). Well done those who got out the vote, even during a summer re-do.
PP was a good foil to Justin Trudeau. He doesn't have the same kind of footing against this PMO.
This is where I'm wondering if he'll change his approach - different target, different tactics - and if not, how that works for him & Team Blue.
I await his leadership review in January, as I think his brand of leadership is no longer relevant to the situation.
Right this second, I'd still bet my loonie on his winning the leadership being held in friendly territory. The final numbers? I'll wait until closer for a WAG :)
 
To be fair, given that the last by-election in Alberta (July 2023) only saw something like a 29% turnout, I'm willing to give credit where due and say almost 60% is not bad. In broader perspective, if my math's correct, based on 2023-24 by-election turnouts, average is around 32% (ranging from a low of around 16% to a high of almost 44%). Well done those who got out the vote, even during a summer re-do.
My main rebuttal was that it well and truly was not "everyone" voting for PP. His success and failure getting a seat in 2025 was merely statistics working one way, then the other.

Now that the PMJT bogeyman is no more, he is far from a landslide candidate. I think to paint him as such is folly, and will torpedo the CPC if they go into another election with him as leader.

This is where I'm wondering if he'll change his approach - different target, different tactics - and if not, how that works for him & Team Blue.
He painted himself and the party into a corner, really. The main parts of his platform were undoing the damage that the "Liberals" did.

Now that PMMC and the Liberals are beating them to the punch; and stealing some of their lunch policy wise, Team Blue and PP need to either work with the Liberals and say "hey we thought of this first, but we are going to help move the ball forward!" or admit their platform is bad policy .

To be frank, a lot of it isn't, for the most part. Railing against it because its now in red font is a bad look.

Right this second, I'd still bet my loonie on his winning the leadership being held in friendly territory. The final numbers? I'll wait until closer for a WAG :)
I think he is, frankly, the only CPC member at the moment to lead the party. That in and of itself is a commentary on the soul searching that needs to happen within the CPC.

We'll see what happens in January.
 
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