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"Other non-party land holders will get their chance to be heard later" Good luck for a individual to challenge that case with no resources.
All Things First Nations - CF help, protests, solutions, residential schools, etc. (merged)
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But there ARE groups/organizations with resources
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I know government must reconcile and meet agreements, but if private ownership begins to be affected, this is a whole new ball of wax.
Why buy when there is a risk that the rug can be pulled out from underneath of you?
Why buy when there is a risk that the rug can be pulled out from underneath of you?
Worse yet, what corporation is going to invest in development (pipelines, resources etc.) when there is a chance that the local tribe will move in after you have done all the expensive stuff. Consider what happened in Caledonia and multiply it 100 fold. And yes, tribe is a little derogatory I suppose but many (not all by any means) of these nations were no more than extended family groups at the time of confederation.
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I like the fact that you were aware of that and went full steam ahead anyways.
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Is it derogatory now? Find it interesting how this happens. The ones I knew including relatives used it when I was around in discussions with them. Visited the res and the group in the house I was visiting used it.
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A couple of more public opinion tiles to add to the mosaic, both from Angus Reid this week ....
- "Bills, Treaties, and UNDRIP: Canadian views of contemporary Indigenous land issues -- CPC voters at odds with others over consultation and accommodation of First Nations in development ..."
- "Two-thirds want additional evidence before accepting that soil anomalies represent unmarked graves at Kamloops school -- Majorities acknowledge that what happened at Indian Residential Schools was ‘cultural genocide’ ...
older history books certainly tell a different story. Books written say before 1950 had the indigenous groups asking for schooling, farm assistance, and other forms of training to escape the poverty associated with the tribes. Their lands were great if you were a hunter or trapper but they were sadly lacking in resources to develop a steady income and a future for the kids. It is accepted that there was abuse in the schools but then again St. Michaels in Toronto has had its share of scandals as well. Cultural genocide as they call it now was something totally different in 1880. Getting rid of the buckskins and putting on Levi's was every man's goal. Ask yourself how many of the indigenous (protect their culture, honour their tradition followers) get their squaws to make all their own clothing. Heck, how many would be alive tomorrow if they asked/told their wives to do so. Living in a Tepee may be fun for the weekend but not so great as a semi-permanent residence. It is time to stop trying to re-write history.
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If you're constantly doing land acknowledgements, at some point you'll need to hand that land over.
cause the authors of these books were incapable of whitewashing (no pun intended) history?
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Adding to the FN "Survey Says" series: "Canadians divided on Indigenous rights, but united on financial transparency" Some highlights ...
Details of the survey ....
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It seems FN invented horizontal stripes.
When everything is 'sacred' nothing is sacred.
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When everything is 'sacred' nothing is sacred.
Photo of Alberta Premier in ribbon skirt sparks controversy
The photo shows Smith at a college in northern Alberta last week wearing a blue blazer and matching ribbon skirt.
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With respect, that's kinda like saying, "What? Like the Scots invented plaid?" when someone talks about their tartan and its importance to their heritage & history.
To be fair, the article does say the skirt in question was gifted to the Premier. While leery about some media and political info-machines, barring other evidence, I'll take at face value that someone gifted the ribbon skirt to the Premier, who wore it visiting a FN.
Like all kinds of religious & cultural beliefs, while generally to be respected, some elements may be in the eye of the beholder. Some feel FAR more strongly about some parts of their culture than others - often depending on whether you agree with the politics (or institutional history) of the person in question who received some regalia in good faith from someone giving it in good faith.
All of these folks have had both fans and haters in response to gifted Indigenous regalia in Canada, for example ....
#RegaliaPoliticalRorschach
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5 times non-Indigenous dignitaries donned gifted headdresses
When Wilton Littlechild, honorary chief of Ermineskin First Nation, gifted Pope Francis a headdress on Monday in Maskwacis, Alta., there was a smattering of applause at the event but online it drew a wave of reaction from the Indigenous community. "People have started to say that the headdress...
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With respect, that's kinda like saying, "What? Like the Scots invented plaid?" when someone talks about their tartan and its importance to their heritage & history.
To be fair, the article does say the skirt in question was gifted to the Premier. While leery about some media and political info-machines, barring other evidence, I'll take at face value that someone gifted the ribbon skirt to the Premier, who wore it visiting a FN.
Like all kinds of religious & cultural beliefs, while generally to be respected, some elements may be in the eye of the beholder. Some feel FAR more strongly about some parts of their culture than others - often depending on whether you agree with the politics (or institutional history) of the person in question who received some regalia in good faith from someone giving it in good faith.
All of these folks have had both fans and haters in response to gifted Indigenous regalia in Canada, for example ....
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5 times non-Indigenous dignitaries donned gifted headdresses
When Wilton Littlechild, honorary chief of Ermineskin First Nation, gifted Pope Francis a headdress on Monday in Maskwacis, Alta., there was a smattering of applause at the event but online it drew a wave of reaction from the Indigenous community. "People have started to say that the headdress...ca.news.yahoo.com
Fine, but just don't let any of those wankers don a maroon beret
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No one in Canada has guaranteed clean drinking water. That is paid for generally by your municipality by your taxes. If your rural you pay less taxes but are providing your own water through wells, etc.
Many of the native groups have been provided clean drinking water, they then fail to maintain facilities, let it go into disrepair, then complain about not having clean drinking water. This issue is a lot deeper than simply providing the means to purify water.
I am of the opinion with the exception of those areas polluted by company action, the government should have nothing to do with it. If the natives wish to be sovereign, be sovereign. Raise taxes. Spend band money on it. Pay to send people to be trained as operators. Actually work the job instead of abandoning it (huge part of the issue there).
Why should everyone else be held responsible for people who refuse to take care of themselves?
The ‘clean drinking water’ mantra sounds good on paper, the more you dig into it though the more you realize that it is much more than simply building a purification center.
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But municipalities aren't mentioned in this bit of the Constitution Act, either.
That said ....
That. Right. There.
And if it was easy, and only needed money (of which a whole shit-load is already going into), it would have been solved.
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As someone of a European descent I want those culturally appropriated ribbons returned. Or just pay me a consultation fee
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In most bands I met a small cohort who wanted to make life better, but the majority of the band just wanted to do the bare minimum and get stuff given to them. That made it very difficult to move ahead and generally the motivated ones were running the council or leaving. That is slowly changing, but at a frustrating pace.
I fully agree on your drinking water statements and developing the capacity inhouse.
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With differing ratios of both groups in different communities, each of which has different levels of access to outside investment and job opportunities. As much as I dislike the centre (wherever that may be) coming up with "bright ideas" for the periphery, I don't envy Ottawa trying to come up with a "one size fits at least most" solution to the various issues involved.
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She was gifted the skirt. She wears the skirts to meetings with First Nations communities. It may shock some- but First Nations peoples have a variety of political views too- and just because one person, or several, in the FN community doesn’t like it- doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate. It means we re giving a platform to people who are weaponizing their culture when they think it’s advantageous. I’ve got lots of FN gifts that I could in theory have worn with my uniform. I don’t- but not everyone would have even happy to see me do it. Doesn’t change the intent of communities who gave me the gift.
