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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

Is it a case of Canadian kids just not wanting to work when a Tim Hotrons locations staff are all foreign workers?

No... it's profoundly different from that I think...

Immigration isn’t the problem: Canada’s job market needs fixing​


Many Canadians blame immigrants for our job market problems, but recent research tells a different story. The real problem lies in how we fail to use immigrant talent effectively. Data shows that our assumptions about immigration’s impact on employment are often misguided.

Canada desperately needs more houses built, yet immigrants rarely work in construction or trades. Only 25 per cent of recent immigrants work in these jobs, compared to 35 per cent of Canadian-born workers. This gap has existed for years and shows no signs of closing. It directly contradicts the common belief that immigrants are taking jobs from Canadians.

The technology sector tells a different story. Recent immigrants are five times more likely to work in computer and information systems than Canadian-born workers and are twice as likely to be engineers. These aren’t cases of displacement—they’re examples of immigrants filling crucial gaps in our workforce. Many of these positions would remain empty without them, hurting our economy’s growth.

The real tragedy lies in how many skilled immigrants can’t find work in their fields. In Toronto, the unemployment rate for recent immigrants is 10.92 per cent, while for Canadian-born workers, it’s only 5.56 per cent. This disparity makes no sense, considering that over half of recent immigrants have university degrees, compared to only 32.6 per cent of Canadian-born citizens. We’re actively wasting the talent we’ve invited to our country.

This misuse of immigrant talent comes with a steep price tag. Canada loses $30 billion annuallytwo per cent of our GDP—because we won’t let qualified people work in their fields. This isn’t just about fairness; it’s about economic common sense. We’re throwing away billions in productivity and innovation at a time when we can least afford it.

 
If you only drive your Corolla 13 years you're doing it wrong ;)
You’re right!
But I’m looking at it from the point of, I’ll be 68/69 yrs old then and I’ll want to buy what will likely be my last new car at that point that will last me to when I’m around my early/mid 80s
 
Can you really blame youth under 18 for not wanting to work? The amount of homework being pushed kids is double what it was when I was in school. They just dont have time to work and keep up with their studies any more. I also cant speak for other provinces but in AB we have a youth min wage of $13 an hour for the first 28h then $15 after that.

Thats barely covering your bus pass for working part time. Many wont see it as worth it.

Yeah I can blame kids for not wanting to work but I blame their parents more for not kicking their asses out to look for jobs but instead making it easy for them to do nothing. Every kid I see has a cell phone and they aren't cheap. Neither is a phone package so if they aren't working someone (hi daddy) else is. They don't go to Tim's after school they go to Star Bucks. Now I don't know about you but I can't afford Star Bucks every day. Their not wearing knockoffs but the real Levis etc. at 100 a pair. At least here in Ontario they don't have homework or if they do it isn't essential: no one fails. So lets quit molleycoddling them and making excuses for them.

It’s not even youth under 18 not wanting to work, it is lack of jobs. 25% unemployment rate for 16-25 year olds means that 25% of those wanting to work can’t find a job. The unemployment rate doesn’t track who could work a job, only those seeking a job. The people not wanting to work are already not part of that statistic.
 
Show me which liberal polices direct effect young unemployment Rick
When the Carney government continues to let in a ridiculous number of TFWs?

Almost every Tim Hortons, fast food place and grocery store out here in nowhere, Ontario has partial TFW or full TFW staffing. The fact they get $3/hour subsidy if the employer fills out the local impact assessment form is not a scam? Of course it is.

We know you hate anything liberal,
Hell dude, go back 6-10 weeks ago. I was singing praises for PM MC on this forum as the possibly one of the best damn Liberals we have had in a long time. However it seems he is all talk and platitudes and nothing else. He is simply a different face than Trudeau for the LPC promise everything, spend into oblivion and achieve nothing party.

your friendly neighborhood provincial government has much more to do with unemployment
I don't care for Blue Liberal Dougie Big Mouth Ford anymore, but how do provincial governments affect TFW hirings?
 
When the Carney government continues to let in a ridiculous number of TFWs?

Almost every Tim Hortons, fast food place and grocery store out here in nowhere, Ontario has partial TFW or full TFW staffing. The fact they get $3/hour subsidy if the employer fills out the local impact assessment form is not a scam? Of course it is.


Hell dude, go back 6-10 weeks ago. I was singing praises for PM MC on this forum as the possibly one of the best damn Liberals we have had in a long time. However it seems he is all talk and platitudes and nothing else. He is simply a different face than Trudeau for the LPC promise everything, spend into oblivion and achieve nothing party.


I don't care for Blue Liberal Dougie Big Mouth Ford anymore, but how do provincial governments affect TFW hirings?
I see what your saying about the fast food places and such through the Burlington/Oakville area on a daily basis. My local Home Depot on the Burlington/Oakville border has had a huge uptick in TFW over the last 15-18 months. The numbers of TFW need to come down even more than they have. I'm hopeful that a further reduction will be announced in the fall when the next budget comes out.

MC has had an incredibly busy May-Aug, I cannot remember ANY PM over the last 35+yrs who has been as active as he has been over the last 5+ months. Not sure if he'll be able to continue at this pace over the fall/winter months. It has to be exhausting, as well as stressful on his family life. PM's are human beings and they do need their 'down time' and they do need to be around their family and ones that they love, it helps to keep them grounded and mentally fresh.

Interesting phase for Ford, 'Blue Liberal', as I'd use the term 'Progressive Conservative' when describing him. I term that I still love and respect and very much feel attached to.
 
Is it a case of Canadian kids just not wanting to work when a Tim Hotrons locations staff are all foreign workers?
A TH, or any business for that matter can only handle so many youth, after all you need people working during the school hours after all. Talking to owners many hire students for their PT positions but they need more full timers.

As for TFWs, the job vacancy rate was 2.9% in Q1 this year, so not enough jobs compared to those seeking. So serious questions need to be asked about the TFW program, especially when the onus is on employers to prove no one's applying for the job, so whos verifying that? There seems to be huge gaps here that need to be fixed.
 
when was the last time you received a call from a telephone soliciting service from a person without a distinctive accent? When Bell put in the new fiberoptic service here there were 6 people doing the work on the street and to the houses. There was only one who wasn't a first generation Canadian (benefit of the doubt). That proportion is well outside the statistical norms.
 

Mineral resource with Germany signed
He also spoke about a new port in Churchill and explicitly linked it to LNG export, as well as expanding the Port of Montreal and other east coast ports. Sounds like there should be announcements within a few weeks.

Non-paywall version: https://archive.is/Q6gXD

I’ll be watching to see actual deals signed with private sector partners joined on.
 
The real tragedy lies in how many skilled immigrants can’t find work in their fields. In Toronto, the unemployment rate for recent immigrants is 10.92 per cent, while for Canadian-born workers, it’s only 5.56 per cent. This disparity makes no sense, considering that over half of recent immigrants have university degrees, compared to only 32.6 per cent of Canadian-born citizens. We’re actively wasting the talent we’ve invited to our country.

This misuse of immigrant talent comes with a steep price tag. Canada loses $30 billion annuallytwo per cent of our GDP—because we won’t let qualified people work in their fields. This isn’t just about fairness; it’s about economic common sense. We’re throwing away billions in productivity and innovation at a time when we can least afford it.


There are some pretty good reasons why they aren't working in their field; the actual labour market doesn't recognize a lot of their degrees, due to too many degree mills and may require some kind of retraining or additional proof of qualification , while the immigration program gives them points for it with no real plan or support to get them actually working in their field.

I'm sure there are a lot of legitimately qualified people not working in their field, and lots of others that could meet the Canadian standard with some training, but a university degree doesn't really mean much anymore on it's own. If the immigration system isn't going to support that kind of effort to get them working in their field under Canadian qual requirements (a lot of which are provincial), they need to stop giving people points for it.
 
I cannot remember ANY PM over the last 35+yrs who has been as active as he has been over the last 5+ months
He is keeping himself busy. He has actually achieved very little. Its like my sons keeping very busy pretending to clean their rooms. Results matter.

Pierre P had said if he was Prime Minister, he would have sat parliament through summer. He damn well should have done the same. No excuses. REAL results happen in parliament when it is sitting with committees, motions and bills being passed. Full stop. Everything else is empty promises and hollow gestures. Parliament was OUT from December through to May, they damn well could of kept it going to make up for lost time, in my opinion, they owed that much at the least to Canadians. The BBQ circuit is totally unnecessary especially when parliament has been out for so long.

Lets not forget the long term memories. Stop and ask yourself why did the CPC suddenly shoot up in the polls? A rarity blip? Or is it that Mark Carney promised BIG things to happen in the election and at speeds never seen before (crawling tortoise?) all while crime, economy, government over spending, international trade, immigration mismanagement, housing, natural resource extraction and the Trump file (amongst many others) are being ignored or at the very least mismanaged. And this trip to the Ukraine? A political attempt at a come back after being snubbed by Trump. The world doesn't take Canada seriously because we don't take ourselves seriously.

Lets not forget that a few things such as Canada recognizing Palestine as a state or actually committing troops on the ground in the Ukraine can NOT happen without a vote in a sitting parliament.

I see way too much excuse mongering going here. Its not Trump, the provinces, municipalities, other foreign actors, the economy (as if though thats the weather or some stupid shit), etc. Its a failure in leadership. PM MC has disappointed me big time, I doubt he is going to steer the ship any differently.

I see Canadians getting really fed up, real soon with Liberal inaction and mismanagement. And trust me, Pierre and the CPC will exploit that weakness big time.
 
He also spoke about a new port in Churchill and explicitly linked it to LNG export, as well as expanding the Port of Montreal and other east coast ports.
If they pull this off, I will be very happy and hopeful of Canada and where it is going. It will restore some of my lost faith in PM MC. I mean it when I say it, I want PM MC to have at least 2 years in power to prove himself and real results will keep the wolves at bay for awhile (including my own wolf, the CPC)

Mineral resource with Germany signed
This would be a big bonus for Canada and could get PM MC neck out of hot water. Maybe then we will see some real results in the "ring of fire" Northern Ontario
 
He is keeping himself busy. He has actually achieved very little. Its like my sons keeping very busy pretending to clean their rooms. Results matter.

Pierre P had said if he was Prime Minister, he would have sat parliament through summer. He damn well should have done the same. No excuses. REAL results happen in parliament when it is sitting with committees, motions and bills being passed. Full stop. Everything else is empty promises and hollow gestures. Parliament was OUT from December through to May, they damn well could of kept it going to make up for lost time, in my opinion, they owed that much at the least to Canadians. The BBQ circuit is totally unnecessary especially when parliament has been out for so long.

Lets not forget the long term memories. Stop and ask yourself why did the CPC suddenly shoot up in the polls? A rarity blip? Or is it that Mark Carney promised BIG things to happen in the election and at speeds never seen before (crawling tortoise?) all while crime, economy, government over spending, international trade, immigration mismanagement, housing, natural resource extraction and the Trump file (amongst many others) are being ignored or at the very least mismanaged. And this trip to the Ukraine? A political attempt at a come back after being snubbed by Trump. The world doesn't take Canada seriously because we don't take ourselves seriously.

Lets not forget that a few things such as Canada recognizing Palestine as a state or actually committing troops on the ground in the Ukraine can NOT happen without a vote in a sitting parliament.

I see way too much excuse mongering going here. Its not Trump, the provinces, municipalities, other foreign actors, the economy (as if though thats the weather or some stupid shit), etc. Its a failure in leadership. PM MC has disappointed me big time, I doubt he is going to steer the ship any differently.

I see Canadians getting really fed up, real soon with Liberal inaction and mismanagement. And trust me, Pierre and the CPC will exploit that weakness big time.
I’v asked you repeatedly now what specific things you believe Parliament should have stayed in session to address, versus actions to be taken by various parts of the executive. You haven’t actually answered that. With C5 passed - something he did make clear would happen before Parliament rose - there’s no role presently for Parliament in resources or infrastructure. Or military procurement, or any of a number of things. Stuff is happening / being done, and likely a ton of regulatory groundwork being laid.

So… What specifically should Parliament be doing at this moment?
 
Almost every Tim Hortons, fast food place and grocery store out here in nowhere, Ontario has partial TFW or full TFW staffing. The fact they get $3/hour subsidy if the employer fills out the local impact assessment form is not a scam? Of course it is.
Similar here (although not grocery stores) with a lot of south Asian staff but I don't know if they are TFWs. Our SIL is an IT manager for a large organization and a good portion of his staff is South Asian and they are definitely not TFWs. In some franchise chains, I've noticed that the franchisee is South Asian and assume many prefer to hire from within their cultural community (for whatever reason).
 
I’v asked you repeatedly now what specific things you believe Parliament should have stayed in session to address, versus actions to be taken by various parts of the executive. You haven’t actually answered that. With C5 passed - something he did make clear would happen before Parliament rose - there’s no role presently for Parliament in resources or infrastructure. Or military procurement, or any of a number of things. Stuff is happening / being done, and likely a ton of regulatory groundwork being laid.

So… What specifically should Parliament be doing at this moment?
The announcement for the subs is an absolutely massive one for DND procurement, and when you look at the timelines in kind of unprecedented for something that may be in the $100B range.

Approval for something like that is within Ministerial/Cabinet approval levels, so they are still working away, and I think the fact that Carney is personally visiting both sub yards shows the high level of priority this is getting.

For comparison, took about 10 years of concerted effort to even get approval in principal for the concept, and another 8 years to go through RFI etc. If they make a decision in 2027, that's 4 years total from flash to bang for something much bigger.

Just the infra requirements for Halifax and Esquimalt to support a massively expanded submarine fleet will be in the 10 digits.
 
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