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Two top SAS soldiers are arrested on suspicion of murder
The men - who are believed to be a lieutenant colonel and a warrant officer 2nd class - were detained by military police at the elite unit's HQ near Hereford last week.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Because this is what happens when lawyers and careerists get involved who have ZERO experience in waging war.‘How on earth anyone could accuse them of using excessive force in that situation was beyond everyone.
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SAS troops cleared of murdering Syria jihadist after two-year ordeal
After a two-year legal nightmare, the elite troops have been told they will not face a court martial over the death of an Islamic terrorist.www.dailymail.co.uk
One day a UK politician or VIP is going to be kidnapped, the SAS is going to find them and then refuse to go in and rescue them, because: "We felt rescuing them might be a war crime".
Good luck getting people to risk it all, only to face endless trials.
Alternatively you have the US military which is just a constant war crimes military that basically never holds their troops to task for their crimes. And those very few they do they pardon and put back in the positions that let them do the crimes they did in the first place.One day a UK politician or VIP is going to be kidnapped, the SAS is going to find them and then refuse to go in and rescue them, because: "We felt rescuing them might be a war crime".
Good luck getting people to risk it all, only to face endless trials.
A day like that could see that unit shelved though…One day a UK politician or VIP is going to be kidnapped, the SAS is going to find them and then refuse to go in and rescue them, because: "We felt rescuing them might be a war crime".
Good luck getting people to risk it all, only to face endless trials.
Alternatively you have the US military which is just a constant war crimes military that basically never holds their troops to task for their crimes. And those very few they do they pardon and put back in the positions that let them do the crimes they did in the first place.
Hard to strike a balance between ensuring what the troops are doing is right and having proper justice for when they overstep.
The defence of obedience to superior orders and the peace officer defence are available to members of the military or police forces in prosecutions for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Those defences are subject to the manifest illegality test: the defences are not available where the orders in question were manifestly unlawful. Even where the orders were manifestly unlawful, the defence of obedience to superior orders and the peace officer defence will be available in those circumstances where the accused had no moral choice as to whether to follow the orders. There can be no moral choice where there was such an air of compulsion and threat to the accused that he or she had no alternative but to obey the orders.
Nuremberg notwithstanding the German defence is the only valid defence.
I followed orders.
Soldiers are employed by the state to exercise the sovereign state's monopoly on death.
Soldiers are hired to kill.
The only people who get to decide who they kill in a democracy are the people's elected representatives.
Soldiers are always free to break their contract and refuse to follow orders. But they will be subject to consequences as stipulated in their contracts.
If they decide to kill somebody without orders then they commit murder and need to be punished accordingly.
But politicians can not be surprised when people die after they order the soldiers they have employed to kill people, kill people.
The US politicians protect their troops from Chinese lawyers.
The Brits seem content to put the fate of their troops in the hands of European lawyers, some of whom were born in Britain.
The French ignore the Europeans when it suits them.
Embedding with Britain’s Paratroopers for NATO war games | War On Tape | Daily Mail - 26 Sep 25
Britain’s Parachute Regiment has a proud history of jumping straight into the fight since World War II. Now, with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine casting the shadow of major war over Europe, these soldiers are honing new tactics to ensure the British Army - working alongside NATO allies - can project force anywhere in the world. Earlier this year, the regiment’s 2nd Battalion, known as 2PARA, took part in Exercise Swift Response on the Swedish island of Gotland, testing one of the most ambitious combat manoeuvres NATO has ever attempted. In this episode of War on Tape, Foreign Affairs Correspondent David Averre embeds with 2PARA to witness firsthand what it takes to pull off such a daring mission. Along the way, he speaks to Paras young and old about life at the tip of NATO’s spear, and reveals how Britain’s airborne regiment continues to set the standard for elite warfighting today.