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Trump administration 2024-2028

QV said:
Doug Ford was unwise in that ad effort given the circumstances, and now BC's Eby suggests he is going to toss some gasoline on that bonfire. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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I rarely give corrupt Doug Ford credit but he was spot on. He should run the adverts on Fox & One America non-stop. Should also run adverts in tabloids like the Sun (post media) & National Enquirer. Other provinces need to do the same. Trump supporters need to get the message that he is costing them bigly. Doug should tell Donny, that it will continue until the tariffs stop.
 
As of Sunday US food programs to support low income households (many of who work full time - it's an indirect labor subsidy from the US feds to large employers) have no funding.

Imagine if the GoC announced a program to buy surplus from Canadian farmers to donate to US SNAP recipients - "Our complaints are with POTUS, not the people".
 
Altair said:
Why? Do we have a obligation in CUSMA to buy heinz over frenchs? To vacation in the USA over the Caribbean or Europe? To stock our liquor stores with US alcohol over Canadian or European alchohol? Do we need to buy US fruits and vegetables over Canadian fruits and vegetables?

Why, exactly, is a US boycott the "wrong" approach?
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Tell me, did you cheer when Barger hit the grand slam in Game 1? An American playing American's favorite past-time in the World Series? Or is your boycott selective.
 
Helpful or harmful?


On Monday, Carney said he felt the two countries were close to an agreement, until those ads ran.
“There were a series of very detailed, very specific, very comprehensive discussions … up until the point of those ads running,” he said, speaking from Kuala Lumpur, where he was attending the ASEAN summit.
 
QV said:
Tell me, did you cheer when Barger hit the grand slam in Game 1? An American playing American's favorite past-time in the World Series? Or is your boycott selective.
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My boycott is for nations, companies and organizations. Not individuals.

I don't care what Joe from Nebraska, or Donny from Minnesota, or Hillary from North Dakota, or Bill from West Virginia, or George from Ohio, or Jimmy from Arkansas are up to, I really don't care. But I wont buy anything from them if they own a company. I wont visit their home if they invite me. If they come here to Canada, or we meet in Mexico, cool, best of friends. I was in Mexico recently. I had no problem downing tequilas with the Americans at the resort.

So Barger, congrats. Cole Caufield, Lane Hutson, bring the cup home. As individuals, Americans or otherwise, I wish you every success. I'll still boo their fucking anthem when it plays.
 
dapaterson said:
As of Sunday US food programs to support low income households (many of who work full time - it's an indirect labor subsidy from the US feds to large employers) have no funding.

Imagine if the GoC announced a program to buy surplus from Canadian farmers to donate to US SNAP recipients - "Our complaints are with POTUS, not the people".
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That is some evil shit by the US government right there. They have money for a bloody ballroom, but can't keep up the poor afloat with food they rely on.
 
Nvlgzr said:
I rarely give corrupt Doug Ford credit but he was spot on. He should run the adverts on Fox & One America non-stop. Should also run adverts in tabloids like the Sun (post media) & National Enquirer. Other provinces need to do the same. Trump supporters need to get the message that he is costing them bigly. Doug should tell Donny, that it will continue until the tariffs stop.
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While I'd laugh at that I'd also point out if you're going to be dumb you better be tough.
 
QV said:
Tell me, did you cheer when Barger hit the grand slam in Game 1? An American playing American's favorite past-time in the World Series? Or is your boycott selective.
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Trump has declared economic war on Canada, and yet you’re going on about an American athlete playing in the American League.
 
Altair said:
My boycott is for nations, companies and organizations. Not individuals.

I don't care what Joe from Nebraska, or Donny from Minnesota, or Hillary from North Dakota, or Bill from West Virginia, or George from Ohio, or Jimmy from Arkansas are up to, I really don't care. But I wont buy anything from them if they own a company. I wont visit their home if they invite me. If they come here to Canada, or we meet in Mexico, cool, best of friends. I was in Mexico recently. I had no problem downing tequilas with the Americans at the resort.

So Barger, congrats. Cole Caufield, Lane Hutson, bring the cup home. As individuals, Americans or otherwise, I wish you every success. I'll still boo their fucking anthem when it plays.
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I see. Your high level boycott or booing their anthem won't impact individuals it seems.
 
QV said:
Publicly campaigning a boycott USA program is damaging, the USA holds the big stick in this economic spat and if that were to be reciprocated Canada would feel the hurt much more. Having a media scrum to dump out American booze (or Canadian for that matter) is infantile. As is boycotting vacation destinations.
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I haven't seen a large boycott Canada sentiment in the USA. Maybe because we don't go around calling them the 11th province. At the end of the day, we are under ZERO obligation to buy anything from America. Not a damn thing. We give them every access to our market, but if individuals don't buy their products as a result of not wanting to support that country, we have every damn right to do so.
QV said:
The Americans are our friends and allies,
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If my friend and was repeatedly punching me in the face, I would reconsider that friendship.
QV said:
we are socially and culturally closer to the US than other country,
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That doesn't go too far when the country you are socially and culturally closest to you treats you like the enemy.
QV said:
we are intertwined as two nations. If you have served any length of time you no doubt benefitted intimately from joint US/Can relations and have been supported in theatre by US assets.
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And yet, none of that gives the USA the justification to launch a economic war on Canada under false pretenses.
QV said:
Letting emotions dictate the political response to an unorthodox POTUS is unprofessional and gets us nowhere. The US has raised important issues,
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Fentanyl, right? Illegal immigration, right?!
QV said:
some of which many of us are now benefitting from (NATO 2%+) which would never have been a consideration without a whack from a bigger stick. Canada is no innocent victim in all this and for the past decade has pursued puerile policies. Some accountability is in order.
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She walked around in a short skirt so....
 
QV said:
There have been billions of dollars in capital flight from Canada over the years. Most recently setting record exits. What has Canada done to fix that?
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Sure.

But none of that has anything to do with your mistaking action for reaction in an attempt to carry piss for a foreign leader and admonish the rest of the country for not praising the vintage.

You advised against boycotting on account of the the US responding to said boycott by doing the thing that they've already done that provoked the boycott.
 
QV said:
I see. Your high level boycott or booing their anthem won't impact individuals it seems.
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Sacrifices need to be made for the greater good.

If Joe from Nebraska, or Donny from Minnesota, or Hillary from North Dakota, or Bill from West Virginia, or George from Ohio, or Jimmy from Arkansas are so upset, or impacted by this, they can call their representative and tell them that they don't agree with the administration. And come voting time, vote for the side that doesn't support this administration.

Because as long as this administration represents them, I wont support their organizations, or their businesses. There are very few ways, I can, as an individual, impact larger geopolitical entities. But one of the more noticeable ways is with my purchasing power.

Now there are Americans who wake up, realizing, damn, my exports are down. Why? My inn isn't filling up. Why? My alcohol isn't selling. Why? And they learn that elections have consequences. Maybe next election, they think about their bottom line, and vote differently.
 
IKnowNothing said:
Sure.

But none of that has anything to do with your mistaking action for reaction in an attempt to carry piss for a foreign leader and admonish the rest of the country for not praising the vintage.
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I'm pointing out Canada has been pissing into the wind and wondering why they're wet.
 
QV said:
I'm pointing out Canada has been pissing into the wind and wondering why they're wet.
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No, you're moving the goalpost to avoid acknowledging the fact you made a pants on head stupid comment.

You advised against boycotting on account of the the US responding to said boycott by doing the thing that they've already done.. that provoked the boycott in the first place.
 
Altair said:
What is the difference between maple maga and blue liberal, champaign socialist and red tory?
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It makes people that are normally safely in the in-group in this solidly right wing space feel like part of the out group. That's not very nice for them.
 
QV said:
Make the country uncompetitive for business and complain business leaves for better deals.
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My goodness, you are all over the place today...

For the record, put enough tariffs on anything and they become uncompetitive. That's why people are complaining.

If it was simply, US automakers flee Canada to USA because Canada is uncompetitive, fair enough. That's not what's happening. the USA is dumping tariffs on on Canada making Canada uncompetitive with the stated goal of killing the Canadian Auto industry. And maybe if your cared about your fellow Canadian, you could see why that would be upsetting.
 
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