The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Kirkhill]

Mavbe Japan can build us a few of these Non-ITAR F15s

Japan's F-15J 'Super Interceptor' Fighter Has a Message for China's Big Air Force

Japan’s upgraded F-15J “Super Interceptor” adds AESA radar, EW, and JASSM-ER missiles, turning Cold War Eagles into frontline Pacific deterrence.

www.19fortyfive.com

 

[Prairie canuck]

Mavbe Japan can build us a few of these Non-ITAR F15s

Japan's F-15J 'Super Interceptor' Fighter Has a Message for China's Big Air Force

Japan’s upgraded F-15J “Super Interceptor” adds AESA radar, EW, and JASSM-ER missiles, turning Cold War Eagles into frontline Pacific deterrence.

www.19fortyfive.com

Japan stopped licensed new builds in 1998. These are upgrades to existing aircraft.

 

[childs56]

Japan stopped licensed new builds in 1998. These are upgrades to existing aircraft.

I wonder if they zero time the airframes? If so this might be a good chance to add to the Fleet, 100 of these and 65-80 F35s and we would have a pretty wicker Airforce.

 

[markppcli]

I wonder if they zero time the airframes? If so this might be a good chance to add to the Fleet, 100 of these and 65-80 F35s and we would have a pretty wicker Airforce.

Yeah wed just need to triple the size of the RCAF and quadruple our pilot numbers.

 

[childs56]

Yeah wed just need to triple the size of the RCAF and quadruple our pilot numbers.

If you build it they will come. We have not built anything for a long time, hence few have come to join.

 

[Kirkhill]

Japan stopped licensed new builds in 1998. These are upgrades to existing aircraft.

Unfortunate.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The F-15 has had some serious staying power eh ? Thats not a new bird.

 

[markppcli]

If you build it they will come. We have not built anything for a long time, hence few have come to join.

I don't think that's fundamentally true. The only thing that's boosted our recruitment numbers has been conflict. Our pilot and technician numbers have high entry requirements, relatively, and long lead times in training.

 

[Nvlgzr]

I don't think that's fundamentally true. The only thing that's boosted our recruitment numbers has been conflict. Our pilot and technician numbers have high entry requirements, relatively, and long lead times in training.

The fact that most of our fleets are viewed as antiques certainly doesn’t help. The RCAF is trying to attract recruits in their 20’s to fly aircraft that are in their 30’s or older. Good grief. The same can be said about the navy and army. We don’t even have enough housing for the current numbers. It’s pathetic when members are buying kit because what is being supplied is garbage or not available. The CF has a huge image problem in this regard.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The fact that most of our fleets are viewed as antiques certainly doesn’t help. The RCAF is trying to attract recruits in their 20’s to fly aircraft that are in their 30’s or older. Good grief. The same can be said about the navy and army. We don’t even have enough housing for the current numbers. It’s pathetic when members are buying kit because what is being supplied is garbage or not available. The CF has a huge image problem in this regard.

I think there is a point to this, that a well equipped and sustained Forces will be more attractive. But I think that's just one slice of the pie.

Pay - Solved for the most part, for now.
Leadership - Still work to do.
Housing - Has there been movement on this ?
Locations - Few urban kids are super excited to get posted to Shilo.
Support - We marry professionals now, not waiter and waitresses anymore. What's in it for them to restart their careers over and over ?

 

[Quirky]

Yeah wed just need to triple the size of the RCAF and quadruple our pilot numbers.

F-15s for NORAD, or a Canadian ANG, would make the most sense. Place the units in the major cities - Vancouverish area (abbotsford?), Winnipeg, Trenton, Greenwood. Make them a reserve force which means no issues with nonsensical relocations. Join as a tech or pilot, stay a tech or pilot at place of hiring. Still unlikely we'd get enough interest to sustain such a fleet.

 

[childs56]

I don't think that's fundamentally true. The only thing that's boosted our recruitment numbers has been conflict. Our pilot and technician numbers have high entry requirements, relatively, and long lead times in training.

In practice it is true and proven.
Companies who buy new equipment, have decent benefits offer opportunities often get the better and or best applications.
Where they fail if they do, is sustaining That equipment and treating their workforce properly.

Concurrently fix the cluster that is known as the recruiting system.
I hear it everyday from people I work with and deal with how they want to join the military but the process takes to long. Then I hear they are taking new Canadians at their word that they are good people. The system is broken and needs to be fixed.

We are around the world conducting operations as we speak. One of the limiting factors to expand our role is people. The major limting factor in that is equipment. That will draw people

 

[Halifax Tar]

F-15s for NORAD, or a Canadian ANG, would make the most sense. Place the units in the major cities - Vancouverish area (abbotsford?), Winnipeg, Trenton, Greenwood. Make them a reserve force which means no issues with nonsensical relocations. Join as a tech or pilot, stay a tech or pilot at place of hiring. Still unlikely we'd get enough interest to sustain such a fleet.

Greenwood and major city have no business being the same sentence.

 

[Kirkhill]

I don't think that's fundamentally true. The only thing that's boosted our recruitment numbers has been conflict. Our pilot and technician numbers have high entry requirements, relatively, and long lead times in training.

I think there is a bit of both there.

In a crisis the wave of enthusiasm, if it appears, supports the recruitment of large numbers. But enthusiasm is time limited. You only have a short time to convert those enthusiastic volunteers into useful soldiers and make use of them. The most rapid turnaround is from civilian to rifleman.

Every other trade requires time to develop skills, and that includes machinegunners, patrollers, mortarmen, snipers and leaders. Along with all the Woolwich trades.

If that then the question becomes, how many rifles do you need? And for how long?

My own sense is that the tendecy is away from rifles on the front line and towards rifles in the rear for security purposes. Unfotunately that demand endures even as it is the most boring, enthusiasm-sucking part of the job which ultimately drives the enthusiasts away ... and once again you end up having to rely on the King's shilling to get you the people you need.

...

I am a fan of engaging society through an active militia. I also recognize that you can only count on a portion of the militia for a long time lor all of the militia for a short time. And in a world where energy is replacing mass, electrons replacing muscles, there is less and less demand for enthusiastic rifles.

But, there is an increasing demand to engage enthusiastic taxpayers. And I believe the militia can assist with that.

 

[Quirky]

Greenwood and major city have no business being the same sentence.

Agreed. The Martimes don't get a fighter base, you'll scare the retirees with loud noises.

 

[MilEME09]

Agreed. The Martimes don't get a fighter base, you'll scare the retirees with loud noises.

just buy back and reopen Chatham, NB