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That links to an ad. Everyones real is different.
Thanks for the quick take.
I caught that when I checked my post. Embarassing.

That links to an ad. Everyones real is different.
as a complete outsider i dont know if i like the idea of adding two new typesI think there are multiple potential options available.
AW101 to replace the Cyclone on the River-class and MH-60R/MH-60S or AW159 for AOPS and CDC
MH-60R/MH-60S for the River-class, AOPS and CDC
MH-60R/MH-60S for the River-class and AW159 for AOPS and CDC
2 x AW159 for the River-class and singles for AOPS and CDC
...or any combination of the above.
Hopefully any decision on the MH portion would also consider the options for the Griffon replacement....with AW159 being an option on the light, crewed portion of the project and either the AW101 or UH-60 being options for the medium, crewed portion.
And what about the uncrewed portion of both the MH and Griffon replacements? Are there options that work for both? That will work in a cold weather Arctic/North Atlantic environment?
But as @Baz had pointed out there needs to be a serious review of what we want/need from our MH and TacHel communities.
Keep in mind that the AW101 isn't a new type for us...it's the CH-149 Cormorant that we use for SAR. It's also the in-use NATO MH (RN Merlin) that most closely aligns to the way we operate MH ASW.as a complete outsider i dont know if i like the idea of adding two new types
the 101 seems big for a utility helicopter especially since weve reintroduced the Chinooks
the 101 makes sense as a Cyclone replacement but maybe LM has a better offer on the table if we are moving away from the Cyclone
meant more the 60s and the wildcatsKeep in mind that the AW101 isn't a new type for us...it's the CH-149 Cormorant that we use for SAR. It's also the in-use NATO MH (RN Merlin) that most closely aligns to the way we operate MH ASW.
You can do anything you want. But that's a midlife refit sort of job. Why would you want to? Just get the Arctic UAVs they are planning and use them instead. Keep the Cyclones (or there replacement) for the big ships.Can the elevated walkways in the AOP's hanger be modified to allow the Cyclone/Merlin to fit?
Without some kind of embarked sealift/airlift, it strikes me that relying on a ship that is dependent on some kind of shore facility seems quite limiting. Nunavut is over 2Mn sqkm and currently has, what, one deep water port. Even with a few more, Murphy says they would not be where we needed them at the time.![]()
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There is some near-term real money being spent on related capabilities that could be dual-use investments. Get with Transport Canada and Marine Atlantic and make sure that the vessels are fitted-for and maybe even with to suit your needs in the North. Cover the cost differential between the civvy vessel and the plussed-up vessel you need.
Noah mentions some RUMIT that JTF2 will be getting Blackhawks, if that is the case the argument to replace the Cyclone or at least supplement them with MH60's starts looking more and more realistic.meant more the 60s and the wildcats
Without some kind of embarked sealift/airlift, it strikes me that relying on a ship that is dependent on some kind of shore facility seems quite limiting. Nunavut is over 2Mn sqkm and currently has, what, one deep water port. Even with a few more, Murphy says they would not be where we needed them at the time.





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Aren't we putting something like that with the new oilers?And the answer is the Mexeflote
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Use of Mexeflote Rafts? – Canadian Naval Review
27 November 2018. ABCO Industries of Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, is building a 12 metre landing craft for each of the six AOPS -- a landing craft to provide a ship-to-shore connection. A Mexeflote powered raft (20X7m) is a ship-to-shore connector with a 60,000 kg payload.www.navalreview.ca
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Replacing the Mexeflote - Think Defence
The Mexeflote is a modular pontoon in service with the British and Australian armed forces and is primarily used to transfer vehicles, stores, and equipmentwww.thinkdefence.co.uk
Mexeflotes come in sections that can be joined together like lego blocks. One is a raft. 9 is a big raft or a pontoon bridge or a jetty. Add a power pack or two and you have a lighter, a powered barge or a landing craft.
In service with the Brits and the Aussies for a long time.
Aren't we putting something like that with the new oilers?
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