Quirky
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The marker shouldn’t be joining, it should be who’s still around after 3-5 years.
Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC
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The marker shouldn’t be joining, it should be who’s still around after 3-5 years.
That absolutely gets ignored. Retention is a far better marker. And we should be tracking why exactly it is they leave. Not sure that is being captured by the decision makers.
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Lots of data is captured.
Is it being used to effect though? Or just being captured for the sake of capturing it?
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That's a great question, and not one with a yes / no answer.
CAF does not develop leadership who understand HR, or nuance.
My organization has decided that the number of troops they graduate is the metric of success rather than that plus the retention rate 5 years out. Heck or even the placement rate in distressed areas.
Frustrating.
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Throughput is at least as important as retention.
Especially if you want to build up capacity.
We can't afford to keep every soldier we train on the books for life at 100,000 a year.
We should be targeting training the majority of new entrants for 2 to 5 years of service and then putting them into reserve and tracking them.
Quirky
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That won’t work for technical heavy trades. 2-5 years you are lucky to be QL3 qualified with how backlogged the schools are, depending on the element and trade. Squadrons and units can’t always be in a state of endless training only to see these people leave. It’s frustrating for your senior personnel to constantly “take bloggins under your wing”.
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Quirky
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If the future is fighting Russia or China, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the “fighting side” aka Army in Canada. If the Ukraine war is any indicator, the CA will run out of people very quickly.
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And when the other chap comes to your back yard?
The Ukrainians didn't go looking for the fight.
It came to them.
Quirky
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Who’s invading Canada? Either way the CAF isn’t a deterrence in its current state. You’re better off to arm 40 million people.
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Aye. You're right enough. It'll never happen.
I heard a rumour that somebody was looking for 400,000 spare bodies.
The same people that some say the US has been defending us from for decades. Which is still unclear…
Agreed about us having any deterrence beyond weather. We could arm 40 million people or just get nukes.
The desired end state of the CAF by 2040 would be something formidable. We have to get there first.
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The RN's First Sea Lord is setting 2029 as his hedge date.
daftandbarmy
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"Numbers now" can be measured now and used for people to pad their performance assessments now and to articulate competencies for executive advancement now.
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I can't wait to see the DPGR report for December to see how many of those 1200 are in trades that aren't dying due to recruiting neglect.
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I feel for the recruiters honestly. People have free will and you cant force people to be a cook when they want to be in the infantry or combat engineers. Im gonna say that the numbers game alone looks promising if they keep filling up St Jean to the gills every serial.
